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Here is a nice

Just deployed a book Author Jean Plaidy.

Plai has this:

Burford-Hibbert, Elenanor Alice (Jean Plaidy, Anna Percival, Eleanor Burford Kathleen Kellow, Elbur Ford, Victoria Holt, Ellalice Tate, Philippe Carr)

I'm sorry, no rope can be tied to that.

I can of course

@jilles

Of course she can be found, but I mean she does not appear in the author list under the name Hollander.

I am a big believer in a lot of correct information, but not everything adhered to it that way. Everyone knows Havank and I don't want to know more when I look up a booklet, then I find his proper name superfluous info.

Andre van Duin is listed under his stage name throughout the system and you should be able to find his proper name and date of birth, school education, I don't know what on Catawiki, but only if you want to know and not in advance.

There will soon be a wiki page for every author, artist, publisher, etc.

About the pseudonym problem: you actually want to know by which pseudonym / real name someone is best known. We could make it possible to check one pseudonym if it is the best known and better known than the real name. Then we can just show Havank on the books homepage instead of Kallen.

the answer we are waiting for.

We are even 'expecting'

A major problem with the system followed so far is that no distinction is made between pseudonyms. Raymond Jean Marie De Kremer (mentioned earlier in this thread) published, among others, as John Flanders stories for children in the "Flemish Films" and as Jean Ray "adult" fantasy. Now, however, all his books contain all his pseudonyms and it is only by studying the cover image to find out which pseudonym was on a particular book. This is not really justified bibliographically.

Or a recent example: the pseudonym "Kaproen" was recently added to the name Willy Vandersteen. Can anyone tell me how to find out which of the 7.233 Vandersteen items appeared under that pseudonym?

In fact, the connection should be the other way around: every pseudonym must have the actual name of the author associated with "alias".

Never seen such a comprehensive answer from you, I totally agree.

That is an approach that I would not have come up with, but it could be a solution. However, it seems so difficult to find the entire work of this author in 1 place if the real name is linked to a pseudonym. Then the real name should be stored in the file separately from the pseudonym.

Then at Jean Plaidy you will see 2 books, at Victoria Holt 2 books and at E.A. Burford-Hibbert 4 titles.

There are also authors who have their own name and usage and also a pseudonym.

A total overview of all publications under one name is indeed not immediately possible, although database-driven solutions can undoubtedly be devised. Perhaps the "info pages" in the pipeline are an effective means of collecting all pseudonyms under the real name. By the way, the same problem (and possibly the same solution) also applies to publisher names.

There are also authors who have their own name and usage and also a pseudonym.

Basically you should include every published name (real or pseudonym) in a database table "primary name" and every real name in a table "secondary name" (linked to one or more primary names, whether or not that is the identical real name or a pseudonym).

I do not know how far the plans are for a central register of persons, but that would be the time for such an adjustment.

Basically you should include every published name (real or pseudonym) in a database table "primary name" and every real name in a table "secondary name" (linked to one or more primary names, whether or not that is the identical real name or a pseudonym).

I do not know how far the plans are for a central register of persons, but that would be the time for such an adjustment.

We will quickly get to work with central persons, countries, companies, etc. tables because they are also necessary to be able to do internationalization properly.

Interesting thought to include a field on the entry form for the name on the book (pseudonym or real name). I'm going to think about it. Must have many consequences.

Indeed has many consequences now, and I remember exactly why you didn't want it in the past.

Can anyone author Lavki, Lod . modify. The good man's real name is Ludovic van Winkel. So Lavki, lod should be Winkel, Ludovic van with Lod.Lavki as pseudonym.

Regarding the database structure, one possible solution is the following.

There will be an extra field pseudonym (yes, that was somewhere further up, but wait, there will be more). If the book is written under a pseudonym (and the submitter knows that) then he can fill in that field. An importer who does not know whether it is a pseudonym will simply fill in the author field.

What happens next is that the software checks whether the entry in the author field is a known pseudonym. In that case, the real name is still entered in the author field and the specified pseudonym in the pseudonym field. The software must learn to recognize inverted names, but that is child's play (everything after the comma to the front ;-))

That way you can select specific pseudonyms via the pseudonym field, without discarding the possibility to see everything about a writer via the author field.

You could even completely automate that pseudonym field in the sense that it is not a field fillable by the importer at all, but is filled in by the system. People can simply enter what is on the cover in the author's field. A little parser MUST be able to figure out the pseudonyms and take action. This means that the administrators (who of course must be able to access that field) will sometimes have to work manually if another pseudonym is 'unmasked' (see my post above)

removed

Oh dear! That was a long time ago, say!
Do I desperately need to browse again ...

Yes, people were surprised when, for example, they could read that Ruud Gullit is not officially called that at all. Nowadays there is Wikipedia, but then ...

Gilcraft is the writing pseudonym of Francis Gidney

The book homepage now lists the pseudonyms if they are much more famous than the real names. See Havank, Elsschot and Drs. P

There may be some more names on the books homepage by the way. Anyone have any suggestions for well-known authors with a nice Catawiki overview already?

Can an administrator add the pseudonym " Adrianus Spigelius" to Spiegel, Adriaan van den ?! E.g.

happened

Kan een beheerder het pseudoniem A. van Vrijsbeke toevoegen aan de naam Abraham, Hans en daarbij de echte naam corrigeren in Hans, Abraham.

Hij had nog meer pseudoniemen, maar die moeten maar wachten tot ze in Catawiki opduiken.

Bij de Flier, A. van der van 2751281 en 2069749 mag het pseudoniem A. van Redichem.

Die van 383965 en 838303 is (80 jaar later) een compleet andere A. van der Flier.

Can an administrator add the pseudonym A. van Vrijsbeke to the name Abraham, Hans and correct the real name in Hans, Abraham .

He had other pseudonyms , but they will have to wait until they show up in Catawiki.

With de Flier, A. van der van 2751281 and 2069749 the pseudonym A. van Redichem .

The one of 383965 and 838303 is (80 years later) a completely different A. van der Flier.

Executed and all Hans, A and Hans, Abr added to Hans, Abraham.

Fliers separated into (I) and (II)

He had more pseudonyms , but they just have to wait for them to appear in Catawiki.

Rather not, if you add them now, you reduce the chance that people will wrongly create a new author.

@pegag; I was planning to, but couldn't find them so quickly this morning. Has now been adapted

On 20-06-2010 I wrote:

597565 Chris Kras Kzn = pseudonym of Jan Feith

Incidentally, also with illustrators (Kras, Chris)

http://lambiek.net/start/feith.htm

Has apparently never been adapted, so author Kras, Chris can now be merged with Feith, Jan

and illustrator Scratch, Chris and Kris Kras Kzn. with Feith, Jan .

And possibly (see Lambic) Grenade, Siegfried is also part of this.

Executed and merged. The KB has also linked Siegfried Granaat to Jan Feith.