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Ja en? Hij heet niet eens "Ben" zelfs dat is al of B. of Bruno. Het punt dat een enkele bron de twijfel weglaat vanuit welke reden dan ook (of een onnauweurigheid of speculatie overschrijft zonder verder uitleg) betekent niet dat die twijfel er niet meer is.

De Feige hypothese is helaas slechts een hypothese, en zelfs relatief kort geleden dook er een nieuwe hypothese op:

On the 100th anniversary of the end of the Bavarian Soviet Republic Timothy Heyman, the husband of B. Traven's stepdaughter Malú Montes de Oca and co-manager of the B. Traven estate, published an article in the Mexican magazine Letras libres[33] that reintroduced a hitherto neglected theory. According to the theory, B. Traven was the illegitimate son of Emil Rathenau, founder of AEG and therefore the half-brother of the politician Walter Rathenau. Traven's real name was Moritz Rathenau. This information was provided by Traven’s translator Esperanza López Mateos, who had a close relationship with B. Traven and addressed him as "Mauricio". In 1947, four years before her death, she had revealed the story in writing to Mexican cinematographer Gabriel Figueroa, her brother-in-law. He remained silent until 1990. He then gave the name in an article in the French newspaper "Libération".[34]. Figueroa further stated that Traven's mother was an Irish actress, Helen Mareck,[35], which might explain Traven's early mastery of English, as well as his closeness to the theater.

The Traven expert Karl S. Guthke analyzed the theory in the Schweizer Monat in 1991 [36]. He came to the conclusion that the thesis was not provable at the time, but that there were reasons to believe it: "It adds credibility to the story (...) in principle that it begins with Esperanza and secondly that it is a definitely unromantic identification." [37].

En dan is er nog inderdaad de onderzoekingen van Hauschild, die beweert dat hij definitief kan bewijzen dat Traven en Feige dezelfde zijn. Echter:

Festzustellen bleibt, dass es auch Hauschild letztlich nicht gelungen ist, das Änigma B. Traven vollständig zu entschlüsseln, zumal seine Nachforschungen 1924 enden. Er steht der Erlebnisträger-These sowie der Hypothese von einem Verfasser-Kollektiv kritisch gegenüber, und von einer Mitarbeit des Revolutionärs Bourba an der Zeitschrift Der Ziegelbrenner konnte er nichts in Erfahrung bringen. B. Traven wird also ein Forschungsobjekt für Biografen und Literaturwissenschaftler bleiben.

https://www.hintergrund.de/feuilleton/literatur/der-raetselhafte/

Yeah so? He's not even called "Ben" even that's either B. or Bruno. The point that a single source omits the doubt for whatever reason (or overwrites an inaccuracy or speculation without further explanation) does not mean that the doubt is no longer there.

The Feige hypothesis is unfortunately only a hypothesis, and even relatively recently a new hypothesis emerged:

On the 100th anniversary of the end of the Bavarian Soviet Republic Timothy Heyman, the husband of B. Traven's stepdaughter Malú Montes de Oca and co-manager of the B. Traven estate, published an article in the Mexican magazine Letras libres [33] that reintroduced a hitherto neglected theory. According to the theory, B. Traven was the illegitimate son of Emil Rathenau , founder of AEG and therefore the half-brother of the politician Walter Rathenau . Traven's real name was Moritz Rathenau. This information was provided by Traven's translator Esperanza López Mateos, who had a close relationship with B. Traven and addressed him as "Mauricio". In 1947, four years before her death, she had revealed the story in writing to Mexican cinematographer Gabriel Figueroa , her brother-in-law. He remained silent until 1990. He then gave the name in an article in the French newspaper " Libération ". [34] . Figueroa further stated that Traven's mother was an Irish actress, Helen Mareck, [35] , which might explain Traven's early mastery of English, as well as his closeness to the theatre.

The Traven expert Karl S. Guthke analyzed the theory in the Schweizer Monat in 1991 [36] . He came to the conclusion that the thesis was not provable at the time, but that there were reasons to believe it: "It adds credibility to the story (...) in principle that it begins with Esperanza and secondly that it is a definitely unromantic identification." [37] .

And then there is indeed the research of Hauschild, who claims that he can definitively prove that Traven and Feige are the same. However:

Festzustellen bleibt, dass es auch Hauschild letztlich nicht gelungen ist, das Änigma B. Traven vollständig zu entschlüsseln, zumal seine Nachforschungen 1924 enden. Er steht der Erlebnisträger-These sowie der Hypothese von einem Verfasser-Kollektivcritical gegenüber, und von einer Mitarbeit des Revolutionärs Bourba an der Zeitschrift Der Ziegelbrenner konnte er nichts in Erfahrung bringen. B. Traven wird also ein Forschungsobjekt für Biografen und Literaturwissenschaftler bleiben.

https://www.hintergrund.de/feuilleton/literatur/der-raetselhafte/

I think this is a pretty pointless discussion. It is a pseudonym, everyone agrees on that. At CW we mention the real name first and then the pseudonym. In the first place, the KB is the authoritative body for the Netherlands. In would say file the complaint there.

For the Netherlands, the KB is first and foremost the authoritative body.

The point is, of course, that this man was either German or American, and has lived in Mexico for most of his life. His books were written in German and partly also in English. So why would the KB be the 'authoritative' body for this?

The KB based its catalog largely on "Brinkman's Catalog of Books and Magazines". It is mentioned for the first time in the 1931-1935 part of that edition, as Traven (Ben) .

No idea where the compiler got that information from, but also the Brinkman is not 100% reliable.

It's not about where that man comes from or what his real name is. It is a pseudonym and for me the only body that has an answer to that remains the KB, because no one has another answer. And it will remain that way forever. If you want to take the trouble to take a look at CW 3010369, you will see that the original title is "Stories by the man nobody knows". This title can also be found at the KB and still with the same answer.

The film adaptation of he Treasure of the Sierra Madre as I know, which included the illustrious figure B. Traven, was new to me. So nice post. I am currently working on an old documentary via You Tube (from B. Traven - A Mystery Solved). Apparently much around this writer remains a mystery. Do wonder if all known works attributed to B. Traven are from the same writer. B. Traven quickly became a celebrity. With books, style and subjects are quite easy to recognize for the real enthusiast. Does anyone know if you can find anything about this on the internet?

It has been debated for over 80 years. He was a typical "cult" writer, and not knowing who it was undoubtedly contributed to its success. You can find everything about it on the internet, but there is also a lot of information about parrots. A book was also published in 1983, see CW 7425317.

Er zijn meerdere boeken gescreven en documentaires gemaakt over Traven.

• B. Traven a Mystery Solved (1978)
• Beiträge zur Biographie des B. Traven by R. Recknagel (1977)
• The Secret of Sierra Madre: The Man Who Was B. Traven by W. Wyatt (1980)
• My Search for B. Traven by J. Raskin (1980)
• B. Traven: Life and Work by E. Schürer and P. Jenkins (1987)
• Traven: The Life Behind the Legends by Karl S. Guthke (1991); Traven: Biography of an Enigma by Karl S. Guthke (1991)
• B.Traven: A Vision of Mexico by H. Zogbaum (1992)
• A Study of Traven's Fiction by R.E. Mezo (1993)
• Mr. Traven, I Presume? by Michael L. Baumann (1997)
• Encyclopdia of World Literature in the 20th Century, Vol. 4, ed. by Steven R. Serafin (1999)
• B. Traven: A Bibliography by Edward N. Treverton (1999)
• The Man Nobody Knows: The Life and Legacy of B. Traven by Roy Pateman (2005) 
• https://www.bol.com/nl/p/b-traven-die-unbekannten-jahre/9200000018029997/
• Jan-Christoph Hauschild B. Traven - Die unbekannten Jahre
• B. Traven - der (un)bekannte Schriftsteller (2013)
   

En het probleem is en blijft dat het sluitende bewijs ontbreekt.

Several books and documentaries have been written about Traven .

• B. Traven a Mystery Solved (1978)
• Beiträge zur Biographie des B. Traven by R. Recknagel (1977)
• The Secret of Sierra Madre: The Man Who Was B. Traven by W. Wyatt (1980)
• My Search for B. Traven by J. Raskin (1980)
• B. Traven: Life and Work by E. Schürer and P. Jenkins (1987)
• T raven: The Life Behind the Legends by Karl S. Guthke (1991); Traven: Biography of an Enigma by Karl S. Guthke (1991)
• B. Traven: A Vision of Mexico by H. Zogbaum (1992)
• A Study of Traven's Fiction by R. E. Mezo (1993)
• mr. Traven, I Presume? by Michael L. Baumann (1997)
• Encyclopdia of World Literature in the 20th Century , Vol. 4, ed. by Steven R. Serafin (1999)
• B. Traven: A Bibliography by Edward N. Treverton (1999)
• The Man Nobody Knows: The Life and Legacy of B. Traven by Roy Pateman (2005)
• https://www.bol.com/nl/p/b-traven-die-unbekannten-jahre/9200000018029997/
• Jan-Christoph Hauschild B. Traven - Die unbekannten Jahre
• B. Traven - der (un)bekannteschriftsteller (2013)
  

And the problem is and remains that conclusive evidence is lacking.

Hoe gaan we om met mystificaties?

Ik kwam er gisteren achter dat Het dagboek van Betje Boerhave is verzonnen door Jan Veenhoven. Er heeft nooit een Elisabeth Boerhave-Cramer bestaan.

Ik maak een achtergrondpagina voor de ‘held’ Betje Boerhave, maar moet de naam van de ‘schrijfster’ niet ook verwijderd worden?

En mag de Soort wel ‘Dagboek’ zijn, als aangetoond is dat het om fictie gaat?

How do we deal with mystifications?

I found out yesterday that The Diary of Betje Boerhave was made up by Jan Veenhoven. There never was an Elisabeth Boerhave-Cramer.

I'm making a background page for the 'hero' Betje Boerhave , but shouldn't the name of the 'writer' also be removed?

And is the Species allowed to be 'Diary', if it has been shown to be fiction?

The KB calls Betje Boerhave a pseudonym of Jan Veenhoven.

At Veenhoven, Jan I have included both pseudonyms: Elisabeth Boerhave-Cramer and Betje Boerhave

Brian Freemantle: I added some information,

https://www.catawiki.nl/catalogus/boeken/auteurs/182971-freemantle-brian

And there is at least 1 book (https://www.catawiki.nl/catalogus/boeken/series-held-in/james-bond/1920681-ian-fleming-the-man-with-the-golden- pen) in Catawiki which is written under one of its pseudonyms.

Thanks for the tip! There were also two books under the name Jonathan Evans, one of which related to another writer, viz. Jon Evans.

I think they are good now.

Not yet. Jonathan Evans in the catalog turns out to be someone else, turns out to be equal to Evans, Jon.

Thanks to rvraa.

Ronns, Edward was a pseudonym of Aarons, Edward S.

Dupré, Michel was a pseudonym of Schalekamp, Jean A.

Custom.

Geerlag, Hans = ps.v. Weert, Cees van de

Custom

But why not merge?

Edit: done anyway, I see, thanks.

Tine Vrisou wrote under the pseudonym Bonnema, Tine

Custom, thank you

 Een nadeel is dat je het pseudoniem niet kunt terugvinden in jouw verzameling (daar krijg je de echte naam).