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stripspeldjes Depends on what you're looking for, "Sorry, we couldn't find what you're looking for." doesn't look French to me.
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The link is messed up by LD.

Copy & paste into your address bar:
https://www.metiersmusique.fr/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Sacem-SACD-Scam.pdf
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December 13, 2022 21:41
It's about the organizations that protect copyrights for authors. A bit like Sabam in Belgium.

What do you need to know or do you want the entire text translated?
Part 1: Role and mission: Which organization takes care of which sector.
Part 2: Who does what: They are the direct line between the artist and the distributors.
Part 3: Financing
Part 4: Contracts
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Sacem is for music, Sacd for drama (performing arts), Scam for writers/multimedia.
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JozefK
Thank you for finding and translating Jozef. I already had such a dark brown suspicion that it was for writers.
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But then for the Lyricists with the music.
Why else does it say on records or more on CDs SCAM
Here again a few examples, #9496469 / #9496433 / #9506679
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FransS
I'm not quite sure if this one belongs in the list of the Rights Organizations, I think so.
Mecolico = Mechanical Copyright Licenses Company founded 1910
Here's an example from LD. #179145
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Lyonesse
Beats. This was indeed founded somewhere in 1910 / 1911, but already merged with MCPS in 1924. I also don't understand why it is mentioned on that record from 1965. We will keep it in mind for a moment. If there are more with that mention, we can include Mecolico.
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FransS
I have come across Mecolico before at LastDodo, but I can't remember where.
At least found one again, even with the Beatles, #5621917
I think this one is one too #222061
And this one too #6872603
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Lyonesse
I saw in one of those examples that it was linked to a song and not to the carrier, as usual. (Streisand plate). That might be possible, but seems extremely inconvenient for the record company, which has to deal with several rights organizations. I'll keep looking. I had already found that Mecolico had been absorbed into the MCPS in 1924. Strange to see the mention on a plate from 1963....
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How inconvenient for society
She only mentioned it, don't pay anything?
The composer/writer records his rights somewhere and he collects it, right?
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It's the record companies that pay it, who else? For example, artists are members of Stemra and receive their money from Stemra. But Stemra gets the money from the creators of the picture. And for record companies it is useful to only do business with 1 party ;-)
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Okay about selling the carrier
But I think it will have little influence if there are 1 or more parties
I think the mention of the rights organization is very important if someone else is running it (I think that's the only reason it's mentioned)
(To be honest, it doesn't matter to me who represented the rights have already paid)
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Dick52
The statement is "evidence" that the record company has paid the rights.
As for performance; these are other rights, namely the executive rights. For the Netherlands, these are collected by BUMA.
I'm glad you already paid ;-)
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FransS
I understand that, but only the copies sold seem to me to be the payment

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Exactly, but how is that calculated??
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FransSL don't we have someone in LD who knows?
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FransS
Found another one with Mecolico on it.
#6458951
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A new one: TEOSTO (Finland), see #1494789 .
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vertigo
I looked it up, but it wasn't clear to me if they also do mechanical rights. They do have a connection with NCB and they also provided mechanical rights on behalf of Finland in the past.

This is what I found:
The first is quite unclear. The second seems to be about Executive and Related rights. Not for the mechanical rights.

If you want, we can add Teosto

Activities

According to the organization's website: [2]

  • Teosto takes care of the economic rights of music makers' works.
  • Teosto sells licenses for playing and recording music. Users of these licenses are radio and TV companies, organizers of concerts and companies using background music such as Taxis and barbershops.
  • Teosto participates in music export. Export focused Music Finland is an organization that Teosto finances.
  • Teosto annually gives out a Teosto award . It is 40 000 euros, and can be shared by up to 3 musical works. The award must be given to a client of Teosto
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FransS
Usually it says NCB on Finnish plates, but on this Philips plate #1494753 only shows Teosto. Therefore, it seems to replace NCB on that plate.

For example, see also #1494729 , #1494789 , #1494887 , #1497459 .

For example, these plates only read NCB: #1508745 , #1509485 , #1496495 .

[Edit]
On this record #1548237 they both stand.

I personally care whether Teosto is included or not. I think accuracy is most important.
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I can't find exactly what it is anywhere. I'll add it. I don't know if it's correct, but it's there. And especially those singles that feature both. Reminds me of German singles with BIEM/GEMA entry. Although there is an explanation for this. Everything looks like the 70's to me.
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maybe this will help : Teosto :We manage the copyrights of music authors and promote music creation in Finland

from 2017 |:
Another change was the outsourcing of the operations of our long-time partner, Nordisk Copyright Bureau (NCB), to the Danish copyright organization Koda. This was necessary because the amount of royalties collected by NCB had been declining for a long time, resulting from the decline of physical record sales and, consequently, the increasing use of digital services. We ensured that, despite the outsourcing, NCB will serve Teosto's customers in Finnish also in the future.
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Oops forgot 1, then that story is a bit complete:

NCB is the connection between creators and users of music. We collect license fees from the music users and ensure that rights holders get their rightful share of royalties.

The Nordic performing rights societies – KODA in Denmark, STEF in Iceland, STIM in Sweden, TEOSTO in Finland and TONO in Norway – administer the performance rights when music is played, performed or in any other way communicated to the public.
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Everything looks like the 70's to me.

FransS
Some are from the 60's.

maybe this helps

Leike-w
It remains guesswork. The lyrics are now. It cannot be completely ruled out that the task was different 50 years ago.
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