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Thank you for your feedback metalfigures 

Do others find this addition to Good condition an improvement?
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My humble opinion, yes , ( certainly in what metalfigures quoted 'name stamp', I still have some of those... > I would describe the general condition as (qualitatively) 'very good', while only the stamp detracts from that (well…young years eh) So now you have a good guideline.
(edit: I have that mainly with books if that is permitted?)
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Yes, we have to adjust that for both comics and books Leike-w 
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May 18, 2022 11:46
finds the choice between 3 different states too little, maybe a little more choice
under the state a short description of what is meant
Eg: state
New condition
Quasi mint condition
Very good condition
Good condition
Fair condition
Moderate condition
Bad state 









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baronselderie-58 , If you expand the number of conditions, I think you will get more discussion about what should be offered under which condition. For example, drawing a line between Fair and Moderate seems difficult to me.
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Glad I did the whole thing :) What about the number on the front cover. Have this with many old comics, when no was not on it yet. And what about small crosses or stripes on the back to indicate possession.
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I had to google that Flemish term :-)  dieter303 

Well, numbers on covers do indeed appear and the title list on the back is indeed sometimes used as a check-out list. If that is done neatly with a pencil, that is not so bad and you can offer it as good condition, I think, because you can erase it anyway.

Once that's done with a pen, I think many people don't think it's in good condition anymore. Something about the (back)cover is a lot more important than a small name inside.
What do others think about this?
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Rene Lol :)
Good example of grade.
https://www.lastdodo.nl/nl/shops/Opro/items/121457953-de-kaartendans?item_id=27130
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May 18, 2022 13:09
I would definitely not classify it higher than Good condition. The damage to the back outweighs the written number.

With Books you have the advantage that there are only 3 choices, with most copies falling under Good condition. A good description with photos can take into account the age and rarity of the book. This ranges from undamaged with minor wear or yellowing, via beautiful but without dust jacket, to new condition with a name or price in the front. The buyer can then determine for himself whether this corresponds to the desired minimum condition.
Expanding the options only leads to more concise descriptions and more discussion about the definitions.

P.S. Smoke smell falls in the same class for me as water damage, or an endpaper with the inscription cut out. Hardly any collector's value, only suitable as a reading copy (just like ex-library books).
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P.S. Smoke smell falls in the same league for me as water damage, or an endpaper with the inscription cut out. Hardly collectible value, only suitable as a reading copy (just like ex-library books).

Agree, regardless of whether the smoke smell is strong or not, with comics the condition is bad and with books fair.
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 OK in moderate and poor there is probably no big difference thinks that there is a fairly large gray area between new and good condition for a seller is new to me 100% and good max 60% in between would very good not out of place
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Addition: I may not agree with the qualification of the above item (Card Dance), but it is to the seller's credit that he includes clear photos. He doesn't seem to deliberately overestimate the quality of the rest of his offers either.
The item is offered by more sellers and the other "Near mint condition" (with adhesive tape over the back) does not deserve that name either.

By the way, I sincerely hope that we will not go in the American direction, where everything is judged according to a strict grading system.
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So how would you see that number designation on the front cover or crosses on the back cover?
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May 18, 2022 18:36
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The correct qualification of this specific copy should be: "Reasonable condition".
It is the combination of writing on the outside and especially the damaged spine.
The seller is also aware of this, given the asking price.
Well It's annoying that he labels this album as "Near Mint Condition".

It depends a lot on the amount of scribbling on the outside, depending on that the rating is Good or Fair.
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So how would you view that number on the front cover or the crosses on the back cover?

The definition of good condition is now (without the modest name addition inside):

There are normal signs of use but the strip has no serious damage or obvious wear.

I think it depends on how the number or cross is put. If it has been done in pencil or with a small pen, it does not have to be serious damage and the strip, if it looks nice otherwise, can still be in good condition.
If a large number has been written on it with a pen, or if it is just very badly done, then it can quickly become serious damage. There is always a specific interpretation and consideration involved, because every case is different.
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Rene Wasn't clear to me initially, I can already raise a few items from state. Mssch also interesting to add to state legend. I will have to work on photos.
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Anything else

Good state

There are normal signs of use, but the strip has no serious damage or clearly visible wear.

Fair condition

Minor damage is allowed: fold, small tear, small piece missing from the spine,
I find it somewhat contradictory

Good -> no serious damage

Reasonable -> minor damage is allowed.

+ Comics from the late 1950s, early 1960s, etc. usually also have wear on the spine (paper loose, tear), or pages that come loose, especially the middle ones.

I thought ok name no problem, but then I'm still with this one.
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In Books and Comics the description of Good condition has been supplemented with:
 "A modest name or ex-libris inside is allowed, provided this is stated."
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Reasonable -> minor damage is allowed.

Which would make more sense to you dieter303 ?
Maybe replace "Little" with "Some"?
Then it becomes:

Fair condition


Some damage is allowed: fold, small tear, small piece missing from the spine, faded/faded spine, written text and stamps on flyleaves and the like. Comics with staples or holes from staples (for example, ex-reading folder comics) and ex-library comics are never in better condition than "fair condition"; even if they look very good otherwise.
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Collectioneur great i just saw it

Rene maybe this?


Good condition

There are normal signs of use but the strip has no obvious wear or damage. A modest name or ex-libris inside is allowed, provided this is mentioned.

Reasonable condition

Some damage is allowed: fold, small tear, small piece missing from spine, faded/faded spine, written text and stamps on endpapers and the like. Strips with staples or holes from staples (for example, ex-reading binder strips) and ex-library strips are never in a better condition than "fair condition"; not even if they otherwise look very good.

See nuance adjustment of damage at good and reasonable.

What with cover separate from inner pages. Center pages detached from staple (sheets sometimes ok vs damaged edges) = loose, but intact vs tears or wear edges detached pages
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Rene what do you think?
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May 24, 2022 20:14
dieter303 

Looks like you want to remove the word "serious" from the description of Good condition in "the comic has no serious damage"? Then the standard for good condition will become higher and it will become more (almost) new condition?

Perhaps replace "Small" with "A few"?
Then it becomes:

Fair condition


Some damage is allowed: fold, small tear, small piece missing from the spine, faded/faded spine, written text and stamps on endpapers and the like. Strips with staples or holes from staples (for example, ex-reading binder strips) and ex-library strips are never in a better condition than "fair condition"; not even if they otherwise look very good.

Do you agree with this?



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Currently it says this, it also doesn't make sense:

Good -> no serious damage
Reasonable -> minor damage is allowed.

Mint condition: like new
Near mint condition: "some" light signs of wear
Good condition: normal signs of use
Reasonable condition: "some" damage

Where to draw the line. Maybe it will become clear by pushing common issues in 1 of the 4 cats.
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