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Rene 
any form of thanks that we do this within an hour of your report was not necessary, but your reactions are the other extreme...

I have already thanked you in advance Rene in my first post today..., but well you probably read over that.... Just frustrated with this unjustified negative feedback and asking for help and support in it. The negative feedback is still there, so I don't really understand what to thank you for afterwards. Then at least adjust it to neutral and then address the customer about this. Given the fact that the customer has not responded to my emails for 17 days, I very much doubt that he will do this soon. It is clear that this negative feedback is unjustified. Customer does not hear anything at all for 2 weeks and the content of his negative feedback is also incorrect. I've spent way too much time on this already, but think you at lastdodo underestimate how much impact negative feedback has on sales. Anyway, thanks for reading and replying to my messages and apologies for wasting your precious time. Kind regards Kees - company: StripBteaser
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December 06, 2021 17:14
I've already lost way too much time with this, but I think you at lastdodo underestimate how much impact negative feedback has on sales.

And I think you underestimate that buyers are quite smart and understand that a feedback score of 99.6% is very good and because of your explanation of the negative feedback, they also understand the context of that feedback :-)

Anyway, I understand that getting negative feedback is not fun, especially if it is unjustified. I can also imagine that that is extra frustrating if you always want to help your customers properly.
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December 06, 2021 19:25
If I don't have a response from the buyer by tomorrow, I will adjust the feedback myself keisinho 
It's okay.
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Thank you for your response and glad you picked it up tomorrow if the customer doesn't respond Rene 
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Rene  it should not be possible as sellers to block certain buyers I have to support my colleague keisinho  in this case the buyer who gave negative is known for giving negative wrongly 
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Thank you for your response and glad you picked it up tomorrow if the customer doesn't respond 

I haven't responded yet, so that's why I've already set the feedback to neutral keisinho and also similar ones from the same buyer at some other sellers.

A blocking system for buyers is not high on our list for the time being puurveensboekenshop
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Rene Thanks for your input and this quick action
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Rene   this morning you set the feedback back to neutral, but the customer just casually put it back to negative without further notification. It's starting to get really annoying now; this is just bullying. If this doesn't stop now, I'm going to make his name public and warn everyone about this guy. These kind of people don't belong here, do they?
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If I read his feedback like this, this user is disproportionately unlucky with the suppliers he orders from...
Something goes wrong with about 10-15% of all his orders.
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stripspeldjes 
respond to this sentence: "Something goes wrong with about 10-15% of all his orders" 
I don't think that much goes wrong; this buyer just gives a very distorted picture of reality. Not only with me, but also with other providers. I know several providers who have sales experience with this man and all find him very annoying. And the bottom line is that you as a customer are NOT allowed to give negative feedback on transactions that have not gone through for whatever reason. Simple as that! If you then simply put back feedback that has been personally modified by Rene and also ignore his emails, I think you are being very disrespectful.
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but the customer just casually resets it to negative without further notification.

This is bizarre. I'll put it back, explain again and give him final warning keisinho 

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Rene  Thanks for editing Rene. The customer just resets the feedback to negative and ignores you completely. This is getting really annoying now. Apparently the last warning didn't make any sense.... Thanks again for all your attention to this.
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The customer just changed the feedback back to negative 

I don't see a negative with you myself keisinho (I haven't done anything about it myself anymore)
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He changes the feedback 3x Rene  in the past 5 minutes. The moment I send this message, he resets the feedback to positive. He is deliberately irritating me now. He also sends me several emails outside the platform. I'm really done with this buyer now. These kind of guys don't belong on lastdodo. I have to run my business and I really don't have time for this nonsense. This is really bizarre.
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Annoying situation but every time I look the feedback is no longer negative. If that changes, please send us a message.
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Rene I have received 8 update notifications via email about this buyer's feedback in the past half hour. He changes the feedback every few minutes. I really want to request you to remove this customer from lastdodo. This really isn't fun anymore. This is driving me crazy.
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I sent you an email keisinho 
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Hello everyone

I just came across this discussion. Although it's been a few days, I still want to respond to it.
I've given a lot of feedback in the past few months, almost all of them positive. But what I read above, I find rather odd.
First an administrator who says that no feedback can be given if there is no transaction. That is of course nonsense as long as you do not know why the transaction has failed. It could be because of a lazy or unreliable seller. I am also currently waiting for several sellers who have not responded to an order for two weeks or more. Suppose it stays that way, am I not allowed to give feedback on that?
Then I read a seller who is very frustrated (at least that's how it appears) because of a negative review. Irrespective of whether that assessment was justified or not: isn't that the point of a feedback system? It is of course complete nonsense to give only positive feedback. If something is not right, you as a customer should be able to say so. Otherwise you have to stop immediately with such a system because then you just have to give everyone a pat on the head after every order. Totally pointless. On the contrary, I think that besides 'positive', 'negative' and 'neutral' there should be a much more refined scale when it comes to rating. And if someone says that it should only concern the quality of what is offered, then you have to make that clear. As a customer, I do not read anything about which my feedback must comply with regard to content.
I gave negative feedback once, coincidentally also because of shipping costs. After receiving the invoice, all I did was point out that it could be a little cheaper if it was sent as normal letterbox mail. If I order a sheet of 1 or 2 euros, I am not waiting for 6 or 7 euros shipping costs. And when I then hear that it is already packed and that the seller "always does it that way" I think: put that in your conditions, then I will no longer order from you. Apparently the man was not flexible enough to take an ordinary envelope and send the magazine. Fine, but then don't let your own rigidity on your customers. Then he went mad when I gave him a negative feedback. Yes, I know of a few...
By the way, I think that a lot of LD sellers charge a lot of shipping and/or packaging costs. Sending a package in the Netherlands costs € 7.25. However, I regularly have to pay much more. Please make that clearer and forbid to calculate packing costs. Then every shop is forced to simply settle those costs in its prices and the price differences also become more transparent. Because the seller who now earns extra from his packaging costs in disguise, can in this way sit just below the price of his colleague who does not.
Oops, it's starting to become a book. Let me stop for a moment :-)

Wisdom wishes!



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Because the seller who now earns extra from his packaging costs in disguise, can in this way sit just below the price of his colleague who does not.

This is not a nice comment, why earn money on packaging costs, for example I buy special book boxes and put something on it, earn????
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Long story, but with a lot of wisdom!.
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I have already placed many orders. The shipping costs are often laughable! But if it's well packaged, I'll gladly include it.
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Ah, it's still a tombola.
I had a foreign customer who ordered one booklet for 1.50 euros. I emailed him that the shipping costs would be relatively high due to cross-border and that I would understand if he wanted to cancel the order. No, he really wanted it. OK, paid, sent and then I got neutral feedback with the reason (drum roll) that the shipping costs were higher than the one and a half euros of the ordered book. Well, shoot me, there's no cure for that. Could only advise him to order for higher amounts from now on :)
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Hello Morits

What I mean is that it is not insightful now. One seller does not mention packaging costs in the conditions, but then charges more shipping costs than the normal rates. The other neatly reports (as you do) that packaging costs are charged. A third party does not report anything and does not charge any costs. For me as a customer this is unclear. Because what is a 'normal' rate and how am I supposed to compare the prices of items if I don't have an idea of all those widely differing additional costs? If you just mention it: fine. But then there remains the fact that I first have to read the conditions of every seller (if there are any) and only then can I see what an item will actually cost me. If I have to do that for, say, 300 comic books, I'm sure I'll never be able to read them again because then I won't have time for that...
That's why I'm advocating equality on this point. It is much clearer if all sellers include any additional costs (and I understand that there are!) in the asking price. Then as a customer I know who is cheaper/more expensive for each item and I only have to pay attention to differences in quality. Shipping costs are the same. Why does a letterbox package cost 4.5 for one and 5.10 for the other? That is of course nonsense. That 5.10 is simply a part of packaging costs or something else. Then you should not call that shipping costs because that only creates ambiguity.
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There are transport costs in addition to packaging costs in addition to labor costs that fall under shipping costs.
A little more oil: VAT (by the way) on transport costs VAT (value added tax) must be calculated and then e.g. ( p.e.) € 4.50 transport minimum € 4.90.
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First an administrator who says that no feedback can be given if there is no transaction.

You can always give feedback in all cases. It is only not the intention to give negative feedback if no transaction has taken place and payment has not been made by the buyer. This is to prevent someone who, for example after a trade fair, does not have his stock in perfect order, can immediately receive negative feedback because something is accidentally not available. In those cases you can always give neutral feedback and express your concerns in text to other buyers.

By the way, I think that a lot of LD sellers charge a lot of shipping and/or packaging costs. Sending a package in the Netherlands costs € 7.25. However, I regularly have to pay much more. Please make that clearer and forbid to calculate packaging costs.

I agree with you that a seller should clearly indicate if he deviates from the regular shipping costs and charges for packaging, etc. It might also be an idea to set a maximum extra cost for packaging costs. Maybe there are sellers who want to indicate what good packaging costs? For example those book boxes of yours Morits ?

It is much clearer if all sellers include any additional costs (and I understand that there are!) in the asking price.

In practice this seems very difficult to me because sending 10 magazines can be just as expensive as sending 100 magazines. Do you divide those postage costs by 10 or by 100 before you add them to the price of 1 magazine in your shop? You don't know how many a buyer will order. And what do you do with the different postage costs to different countries? After all, you don't know in advance where the buyer is.


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