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In my humble opinion, there are some things wrong with the layout and overview of the Airfix toy soldiers.

Under series are individual boxes that are part of a series. These boxes can be part of the following 3 series; 1.Military series 2.Military History series or 3.American West series. German Infantry is part of the Military series and the Waterloo Highland infantry-1815 is part of the Military History series, which immediately cleans up the catalog and makes it easier to understand.

Furthermore, the soldiers from the box are listed separately with a serial number. (number of the box with its own addition of, for example, 1 to 7 if there are 7 different soldiers in it) However, if there are a total of 29 in the box, they are numbered 1 to 29.5 of the same shooters therefore all 5 have a different number , so no number can be mentioned underneath.

And it wouldn't be much clearer to enter the box and the contents as a whole. One photo of the front and one photo of the back and the 3rd photo of the content.

To get some clarity in the catalog I started with the number on the box and each different model from that box I have given a serial number

The easiest way is to only enter complete boxes, but then someone can no longer put his individual figures in his collection.

Airfix makes no clear distinction between the different periods and quietly puts the medieval foot soldiers between the Germans and the space explorers with the British Grenadiers. Their numbering has more to do with the time of release

In the catalog, the factory number is an important piece of information to look up and sort, so it makes no sense to change it if there is a number.

This number is used in the series because the box is also a series.

At later times, the same series came out in different packaging with different numbers, but as they are now indicated, this all comes together fine

Some boxes contain 7 different figures, other boxes sometimes contain 10 or more different figures. These separate figures are then numbered from 1 to 7 or 1 to 10 and even if there are 6 the same, for example, those six also have the same number

Until 1978, a series was indeed mentioned on the boxes. There was also a box of footballers released in the early 1970s that mentioned sports series. The medieval foot soldiers was first released in 1978 and there is therefore no longer a series description on the box. The space warriors will indeed be a bit difficult to classify.

In my opinion, each box is listed as a separate series.

On the following site www.airfixtoysoldiers.com . you can read that the soldiers in an original box are numbered 1 to 29 (so-called mold numbers). contents are composed of several boxes so that you have some equal numbers, however, original boxes are numbered 1 to 29.

You can have different opinions about organizing boxes in series, but what you say about the numbering is incorrect.

Another site with a lot of information about airfix 1:32 is www.airfix132.de .

The series stated on the box is used in the series designation.

The loose figures are a derivative of this,

This is a choice to arrive at a classification and until I come across something that can be regarded as a kind of international standard, I am not going to change that. [

It is already a problem that Airfix sometimes uses different numbers with later packaging. Eg British Infantry support nr 51459 -6, the new packaging is' British Infantry nr. 51475 -8. Outside the box they are exactly the same figures, I have not solved this problem yet. I may have to remove the box numbers, but then the problem remains to indicate the loose figures.

1 figure can appear in the same version (unpainted, painted, etc.) only once in the catalog, even a factory-made and self-applied different color does not make it another figure, that is important for the own collection and not for the catalog.

With all the boxes I have in my possession, about 30 pieces, there is none with a so-called 'mold number'. and even if that would be the case in the same figure with an Aatje or a Btje or 1, 2 or 4, that is an indication of no value. The figures are spit out at the same time by the same machine. It also happens that there are mutually different compositions in the boxes and the only thing that is correct is the number as stated on the box

You now pretend that I suggested numbering 29 soldiers and entering them separately, while I was just wondering whether it might be better for the sake of clarity to enter the box and contents as a whole and place this box in one of the 3 series (1st message)

Now, with airfix series, a long list of loose boxes with factory number is displayed. When clicking, the idea arises that these soldiers are issued separately (in the German Infantry series, for example) with a serial number (box number + your addition) while this is not a series. but the contents of the box.

As far as the composition of a box is concerned, I would click on any box on www.airfix132.de , photo of the content with the number in brackets that should be in every soldier.

p.s. I just looked at the catalog data of a number of boxes and you did mention behind series: model figures scale 1:32 military series This description should be under airfix series together with Military History series and American West series and not that one long list of loose boxes

You may overlook the fact that anything that can become detached from the original packaging can also be separately imported into Catawiki? Those boxes do not stay neatly together forever, except perhaps with the real collectors. You will therefore simply be able to find the loose figures separately at markets, fairs and Catawiki shops of course. Users must also be able to add them separately to their search list. It is therefore impossible to only import complete boxes. But maybe you didn't mean that at all.

Ok that's right. But is a box a series in itself or part of a series?

No idea. I have too few of those dolls to have thought about it. Do not have complete boxes yourself.

You must be able to place both a complete box and the individual figures in the catalog. To do this in a tidy way, I think a factory number is essential. In the absence of a number, I try to use the most obvious coding, until something pops up somewhere that is already in use internationally and has proven to be more useful. Now every box is its own series and I don't know yet whether that will last.

Few brands have a usable encoding.

Good coding or numbering is important, because anyone who enters something can give his own name and recognizing and identifying a figure is very difficult. Especially with Airfix where many figures are painted with very varying results. (they can only be entered as 'unpainted' and the painted copies are then only visible in your own collection)

Until now I have not come across a usable system on the Internet and I also realize that as soon as scale 1:72 presents itself, a different numbering must be chosen for the individual figures.

As the coding is now, the boxes and the content come together very visibly

Hello, as you well know there are different packages of airfix (releases) with the same soldiers (same molds) ... this can also cause confusion. Yet there is a difference in price if the box is older for the real collector .....

So far airfix has released 10 different boxes with the same sets in the 1:72 line. The coding is the same, only with the first 5 releases, the codings were with S3, S43 etc. from release type 6 box (1982-84) the coding went to 1-6003 and from type 7 box (1985-95) it became as they are today ... 01711 etc.

Het is vervelend als en fabrikant hetzelfde uitgeeft met een andere verpakking en een ander nummer.

De set wordt dan ingevoerd met het nummer van die verpakking en is dus een nieuw item.

Voor de losse figuren (1:32 en groter) ligt dit wat moeilijker. Is er een verpakking bekend dan wordt hun nummering afgeleid van het nummer van de verpakking zoals op het forum te lezen staat. Zijn het exact dezelfde figuren, maar uit een andere verpakking dan moet voorkomen worden dat er dubbel ingevoerd wordt. Zijn er al  losse figuren ingevuld met nummer, dan dezelfde nummerreeks gebruiken en anders van de oudst bekende verpakking het nummer afleiden.

Sommige leveranciers, zoals Atlantic hebben series wel 10 keer of meer uitgegeven met andere verpakking en nummering. Dan wordt het belangrijk om via de reeksnaam  deze series bij elkaar te kunnen zoeken.

Bij naamsverandering, overname of heruitgaven door een andere fabrikant moet zoveel mogelijk de reeksnaam van de originele uitgave aangehouden worden.

Als dan voor de duidelijkheid het nodig is, kunnen de reeksnamen gewijzigd worden en verdwijnt het verpakkingsnummer uit de reeksnaam.

Deze laatste aanpassingen kunnen beter uitgevoerd worden door de beheerders, maar als iemand vindt dat er ergens iets veranderd moet worden, dan wordt het op prijs gesteld als dat dan gemeld wordt.

It's annoying when a manufacturer releases the same thing with a different packaging and a different number.

The set is then entered with the number of that package and is therefore a new item.

This is a bit more difficult for the loose figures (1:32 and larger). If a package is known, their numbering is derived from the number of the package as stated on the forum. If they are exactly the same figures, but from a different packaging, double entry must be avoided. If separate figures have already been filled in with a number, then use the same number series and otherwise derive the number from the oldest known packaging.

Some suppliers, such as Atlantic, have issued series 10 times or more with different packaging and numbering. Then it becomes important to be able to find these series together via the series name.

In the event of a name change, takeover or reissue by another manufacturer, the series name of the original edition must be used as much as possible.

If necessary for clarity, the series names can be changed and the packaging number disappears from the series name.

These last adjustments can better be carried out by the administrators, but if someone thinks that something needs to be changed somewhere, it is appreciated if this is reported.