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subsequent message from the Manager:

[Moderator - Do not post a copy of someone else's message on the forum without permission]

My question:
Isn't this a task for administrators?
They may/can and always make all kinds of changes, no objection to that, but then they can still post the "Neutral" Photo desired by Last Dodo.?

With kind regards
Roy
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Hello RoyRoy2706 is it necessary to take this to the open forum (three times)?. You can also arrange this with the relevant administrator.
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Yes, I agree with you, but unfortunately his reaction is to threaten exclusion and I want to avoid that.

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An exclusion doesn't seem logical to me RoyRoy2706 . As it looks, it concerns the photos or scans. The catalog only contains images without imprints, because there are several of them. In your own shop, you can post whatever you want.
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February 22, 2024 18:33
RoyRoy2706

Those are the agreements. And those are the possible consequences.

The images that each collector makes available here must be neutral. LD ensures that there is a watermark on the site. Anyone who sees an image with such a watermark somewhere, not in an LD context, can report it ('Contact' at the bottom of every page on LD).

You can always add your own images with all the trimmings to your personal images with an item in your collection. That's what that's for.

In any community where you have to work together with several people, even if they are volunteers, agreements are necessary. And they apply to everyone. Without exceptions. LD is not an Animal Farm.
Any form of watermark or anything on an image that has nothing to do with the item is simply prohibited. Everyone can understand and comply with such a clear rule.
Otherwise, every section on LD will soon become a business card show. And that is not the intention.
You can always create your own site and post your own creations there. You are the boss there. On LD you are not.

You can read everything in the general manual or in the terms of use (there is a link to the terms of use at the bottom of the page). There is no escape.
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February 22, 2024 19:36
Raoul62 I don't respond quickly on the forum, but a while ago I reported to @Rene that my photos that I had posted on LD were used on 2dehands.be with the LD watermark added, and it went away dozens of photos of various items. Rene could do NOTHING about that, was the answer and the classifieds simply remained on 2ndhand, even after I reported this on the relevant classifieds site. So the watermark doesn't stop anyone from taking MY own photo from LD.
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That depends on 2dehands.be
I have had the same problem with Catawiki and when I reported it, the lot in question was removed from the auction.
If I were the administrator, I would make a friendly request to the importer to adjust the images in the catalog and if refused, I would have no choice but to reject the imported items
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What I actually mean is that LD has made no effort to contact this classifieds site to draw their attention to this.
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That would have been a small effort for LD and they should indeed have done so after you had taken the trouble to report it
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I would consider that normal. No idea why it didn't happen, I'm not involved.
If it doesn't matter, then I wonder why the L (and apparently the C used to be) has to be there as a watermark.
A normal person would logically think that the goal is 'to be able to recognize'. And if found, at least take action. Not to like it when an image with such a mark shows up somewhere else.

My point is mainly: it is stated in the agreements that you must use your own images, without watermark and/or addition of logos or names, in the catalogue.

From the terms of use:
5.2.2. the User Material that you make available:
e) relates solely to Objects, Collections or collecting in general;

Pure = just and only = no extra tricks (logo, brand, name, website, ...).

Article 7. User Material
7.1. You retain all Intellectual Property Rights in your User Material, but hereby grant LastDodo a royalty-free,
unencumbered , worldwide, non-exclusive, perpetual and non-cancellable license to disclose and/or reproduce your User Material for any purpose LastDodo deems necessary, including but not limited to promotional and commercial purposes

Unencumbered = free from (legal) personal references.

From the Basic manual:
5.1 Own scans or photos only
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To prevent the creation of such ghost items, only your own scans or photos may be used when entering or correcting items.
...
5.2 Logos, watermarks and time-stamps
It is
not permitted to place images in the catalog that contain a logo, a watermark or a time-stamp. This restriction obviously does not apply to images that are added to copies in your own collection or shop.
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In addition to the fact that a number of them are really useful enough to remove the watermark
What should LD do about the use of the scans?
At most, banish that collector
But what if it uses a different name?


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Do you have the time and are you willing to replace the image in the catalog?
Some items have already been adjusted, but where the code runs through the item it does not work
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Dick52 is right. The internet is full of stolen images, not only at 2ehands.be, but also at Bol.com, for example. Maybe we have to learn to live with that.

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You will not suffer any demonstrable damage as a result of this (unjustified) use of others. So why would you want to have that photo removed?
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Of course, the use of your own scans in the catalog remains important

Indicated a long time ago in search, an item is not yet in the catalogue
How can I then perform a search?
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Do you have the time and are you willing to replace the image in the catalog?
Some items have already been adjusted, but where the code runs through the item it does not work

RoyRoy2706 is working on replacing the images, thanks.
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