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November 25, 2023 17:57
The manual says:
17 NO.IN ALBUM SERIES General: The song that is actually on the album or (if nothing is on the album) the number that it actually occupies in the album series (specific series in which the album was released). If a series contains more than one album of a series, the album must have a series number

Shouldn't # 8410499 be number 1 instead of 4 or should the manual be adjusted?
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November 25, 2023 19:14
There are 3 titles preceding it in the series , so what makes you think it shouldn't be number 4?
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lordernie
You give the answer yourself in your question.
Purple Pills is number 4 in the 'specific series' 'Kapoentjes publications' by publisher Het Volk.
Jommekes album 1 and 2 are Kapoentjes editions originally published by Halewijn publishers.
And then also published by Het Volk (1st edition reissue by Het Volk). And only once.
Look at the story numbers.
For Purple pills this is V4. And continues walking.
On Jommeke's album 1 and 2 it is G1 and 2. But that's where it ends. You're not going to find a G3.
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November 25, 2023 20:01
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Plus the fact that Het Volk itself was not always correct in terms of covers and numbering.
I also looked at Stripunfo and it is also number 4 there.
Take a look at Jommeke with the filter 1st edition and display per number from low to high.
That's the only and correct order per hero and per series.

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So the manual needs to be adjusted
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Oh no, not at all. It's completely correct.
I don't see a number on the cover.
And then you follow the manual.
And sorry lordernie but Purple Pills is number 4.
With the series/hero Jommeke. And in the series: Kapoentjes publications (from publisher Het Volk
> comics
> filter series/hero Jommeke
> filter publisher Het Volk
> filter 1st edition
> filter series of Kapoentjes publications
* With relevance at the top, choose to display numbers from low to high.
** You can't always focus blindly on what you see on the back; many times correct but not always...
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Sorry, but I do see a number on the cover
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lordernie
Well, that 1 was of course a bit hidden behind the L of LastDodo.
But as I said, things sometimes went wrong at Het Volk.
Not just at Het Volk; Things sometimes go wrong at other publishers too.
And it can happen that albums still enter 'circulation' despite 'quality control'.
1st edition Purple pills in 1960 with number 4.
And then 6 years later, Purple Pills suddenly becomes number 1?
Mistake by Het Volk, amen and out.
Look at the top right #2942321 : 1 year earlier from 1965 and there is a 4 in red.
And look at the history of the item and you will see that this was all explained in the details section.
So there is simply nothing going on.
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Apparently the layout of the back cover was slightly changed in 1965, with the titles of the first 4 parts arranged in a different numbered order.

Number 1 (The hunt for a football) became 2.
Number 2 (The Singing Monkey) became number 3.
Number 3 (The Queen of Onderland) became 4.
Number 4 (Purple Pills) became 1.

In 1977 the order was reversed to the original numbering.

That seems to me to be a good argument for splitting the current series into three different album series, for the three periods in question. That is the only way to state the 'Number in the series' correctly (in accordance with the instructions in the Manual).
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stripspeldjes Collectioneur Jilles rikMooren
Nothing needs to be changed anyway.
In accordance with the manual, enter the number on the front cover or spine. So here is number 1.
According to the manual, this is correct.
In accordance with the manual, if no number is stated, take the number that the story actually occupies.
But that is not the case here.
So you take the number on the cover as the number, so here it is 1.
Even though this is wrong. But that didn't happen here.
To preserve the actual numbering.
So it becomes a choice: either number as on the cover or the 'chronological' number.
It is better to opt for chronological and report the 'irregularities' in the details.
Whatever was done here by admin JozefK
And I can't see it because everywhere the watermark always comes over it.
But is that the wrong number everywhere on the front?
From the year 1966 to 1972 at Purple Pills? From '77 it is 'normal' again.
Or also with other titles?
Otherwise you will be splitting up an existing album series based on the back cover(s). Isn't the front 'leading'? Or not?
So it doesn't seem necessary to me.
And it just takes more searching to find it.
And there are plenty of (other) options.
Searching by title and then displaying by year, for example, seems to me to be the most useful if you want to find a specific title quickly.
If you only search for the main series, you will never end up with number 1 purple pills. But always number 1 The hunt for a football.
And V1 is: The hunt for a football.
And V4 is: Purple pills.
Break it down and you end up with dozens of titles with 2 songs.
Because logically it is not possible. And it just makes searching less easy.
Then you already have at least 4 Purple pills with a number 1: the years 66, 69, 70 and 72.
And the other Purple pills all have number 4.
Not logical after all? Or 1. Or 4.
Not a little of this and a little of that. A or B. So that it is clear for everyone, beginner or advanced.
A manual is good. And practical.
But sometimes you have cases that are not immediately anticipated or considered.
Like here.
And the administrators are still looking for a suitable solution.
I thought what happened here...
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November 26, 2023 20:06
stripspeldjes buizer
Maybe also solvable #5744505
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November 26, 2023 20:06
ps is just an idea
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November 26, 2023 20:24
lordernie This field was not created for that purpose.
Read point 18 of the manual.
And it is not a variant.
Just leave it as it is.
Already 'old' enough to know that 'Hunting for a football' is Jommeke's very first story...
And if not, Collectioneur rikMooren Jilles or 'experts' can shed some light on it...
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but I always miss with 2 and 3 and 4 I think purple pills is number 2 etc.
But the whole thing came about because of the French-language publications.
No. 1 was singing monkey and hunting for the football no. 3
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Oh well lordernie it's simple.
To begin; the French editions have nothing to do with it, otherwise use the Dutch filter.
Then search by title.
And in the search bar type Purple pills.
And put them in 'gallery'.
Very easy if you only want to compare the backs, for example.
And then per year from low to high or vice versa, for example
Could it be any easier?...
And as always: a matter of 'targeted search'...

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has nothing to do with searching, but with entering. When I enter something (Jommeke or other), should I use the number on the cover or should I first find out whether it is a different number?
At Suske en Wiske the number on the cover is always used, but they also have many series there.
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lordernie
Enter/enter with the number on the cover.
And this per series.
That's what it says in the manual.
*** Only:
an exception is made with the series of Kapoentjes publications. For several years.
No matter what number is on the front cover.
And regardless of the order of the titles on the back cover/back cover.
So always with Kapoentjes publications:
1) Hunt for a football
2) The singing monkey
3) The Queen of Underland
4) Purple pills
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lordernie I have another variant of Jommeke no. 16 here. The golden jaguar in the first edition. One signed by Lord Ernie Demuysere himself :-)
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where is the time, I was 12 years old at the time and I growled because I was at boarding school
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