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Just a quick discussion because I noticed that 'type of object' has been added over time. I once entered them in other categories (especially 'other'), but does that still make sense? Here are some examples:
9907685
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5662437
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Because other collectors are also linked to it; what is useful?
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Still in their place under Other.
Input always based on what the object is in the first place.
A salt and pepper shaker, egg shell and Christmas ornament.
And there is the field theme.
There you can still fill in Laurel and Hardy, eggs and Christmas.
Another tip.
If you mention ID numbers in a message, please put the sign # in front of the LD number.
#9907685 #7401269 #5662437 #2374397 #2906591
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And then every LD member can open and view the item with one click.
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October 04, 2023 17:58
That's what I always thought, but what are the criteria for the 'type of object' options:
- ashtray
- salt and pepper set
- egg cup
- Christmas decorations
under statues/figures?
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October 04, 2023 18:13
And don't forget that there is a Ceramics section that contains such things.
But this is outdated, we no longer work with 'material' but with 'type of object'.
The administrators still have a lot of work to do here to make a decision and move everything.
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Unfortunately this does not work on mobile (iPhone)
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1955-chevy user-1713548 Ted Collectioneur
This entire 'Type of object' field needs to be taken care of.
But it would be better to abolish it.
- ashtray/salt and pepper shakers/Christmas decorations/decorative plate/money box are not in their place: belong to Other (just look at Other)
- other names are not objects: are already or should be mentioned under themes: citizens/warriors/soldiers/animals
- image/thumbnail is already listed under type
- with toys there are also a number of them that are not in their place (including surprise egg (Other), music box (toy) etc.)
- I thought the holy water font and candlestick could stay. I thought the agreement applies to Hummel when placing statues.
Move what needs to be moved.
You can leave the rest as is.
With the risk that it will be filled in.
And it is not a mandatory field to fill in either.
I wonder if anyone uses this for filtering, for example.
For example, search for 'animals' by type of object, while it is already listed under themes. And then per animal. Animals: Dogs..
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I did not know. Hopefully soon with the updated app.
And a smartphone is a good thing. But not for me.
If you spend several hours on LD every day.
I've been scrolling more than enough now...
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#9907685
Unfortunately this does not work on mobile (iPhone)

What is not working on the mobile phone?
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Still needs a lot of thought, but is not on the priority list.
An experiment has been done for Hummel/Goebel to move Ceramics and Other to Figurines, but many fields are still blank.
I'll throw out a few ideas, but nothing definitive here:
- Ceramics must disappear because it is a 'material'
- All plates, bags and crockery must then go to a new category
- If you consider figurines as 'toys' then all 'art' must be removed, or conversely all 'art' must be added
- If you want to see everything from Hummel (and probably others, for example with Val Saint Lambert crystal you have the same problem), then the plate, lamp, ashtray, etc. must also be placed under Figurines instead of Other. Then we come to the very thin line of ashtray as a utensil or ashtray as a decorative object.
- ... too much to decide now.
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Move what needs to be moved.

Everyone does their best, but there are even limits to what people can do. There is no point in rushing administrators, that is usually counterproductive.
It is better to first focus on a specific section than to jump from one place to another. A number of sections have already been better organized in this way, including Model Cars.
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For me it is not that much effort to customize my items. However, clarity is needed. Not that the items are still placed incorrectly. It can then be merged to take over the other collectors.
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I have previously indicated that I may disappear this field. However, it is now used by the manager of the Hummel figurines to have a better overview within this collection area. When the Hummels are "cleaned up", we will move the parts to the appropriate subsection.
In the meantime, I'm trying to pick out the options that aren't relevant and remove them from the selection list. It's going to take some time.
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I didn't put a date on it anyway. Or who should do what.
And as 1955-chevy already indicated, users can also help with this.
By the way, I'm working on a column.
You know, too.
But I do read the forum every day.
And I can express my opinion there or not.
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If you consider all figurines as toys then they should go to toys. What else is that section for?
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October 04, 2023 21:16
By the way, I'm working on a column.
You know, too.

I know that and it is certainly much appreciated, especially because there are no active administrators on it.
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Did you know so far on mobile, but now you do?
Has that been adjusted?
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I have lost the thread in the discussion for a moment and I notice that it is causing a lot of controversy.
Can a consensus be reached on the content of my question so that I can gain clarity?

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I think that in the figurines section only 3D objects remain that have no other function than "to look at".
And it shouldn't look like a vehicle or military because they have their own sections :)
Everything that has a function or application in one way or another belongs elsewhere. Elsewhere will often come down to “other.”
And figurines are not toys, because they have a function.
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What is "to look at"? I think there are 2 big things mixed up here. Maybe my choice of words is not entirely correct, but with the category 'toys' I mean all plastic gadgets (Emoji, Kinder Surprise) while with the category 'art' you come with real figurines (Parastone, Tintin, Hummel).
The Figurines section has specific fields, if you happen to banish 1 item to Other (because it is a piggy bank) then you will lose all search options with those specific fields. And finally... a statue in the shape of a piggy bank still remains a statue.
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Is that a realistic scenario, @pegag? Especially because the administrators already have a lot of work to do. Judging from the ceramics section, on which a decision was made at least 10 years ago, I am afraid that this will become an impossible operation unless you start working with bots and directly on the database.
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Let's bring the discussion back to my question:
  1. What are the current criteria for the statues/figures section?
Where it concerns, for example, 'type of object':
- ashtray
- salt and pepper set
- egg cup
- Christmas decorations
and with #9907685 #7401269 #5662437 #2374397 #2906591 as examples.
2. Depending on answer 1: Although I am no longer an administrator, I have no problem setting my items 'right'. I just can't take over other collectors, shop items and search lists, so I need help with that.
3. I also have a number of items in ceramics and I also notice fragmentation in other categories. Think of Christmas cards that are spread across several sections. How do I deal with that? Which is the right section and which is not?
Will someone or some administrators be able to give me a concrete answer?
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See the message above from @Ted in this topic.
And leave ceramics for the time being.
A solution is being sought.
Is an item really wrong?
Mark/signal as
- Wrong section Move to Other > Object > Ashtray
- Wrong category Move to Postcards >Christmas Cards Theme
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I didn't get that from Ted's post, buizer . I must be missing some context. I'll wait it out
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