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darker Hookend Rikki-Erik Collectioneur @De Suske en Wiske connoisseurs
There is a comics section.
Why then is there 18 x as an object Strip in the category Other.
eg #5513563 on the back it says that there is a strip in the middle
eg #5513587 is a smarties packaging
eg #5513603 are 2 folders
eg #5819183 is a print
Most items are related to Vandersteen dinner but not all
Some items will belong in the Other category, but in my opinion the name of the item is not well chosen.
Or you can choose Strip to keep everything together .
Participants of these dinners can therefore provide clarity.
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They are probably brochures or something. The participants of those dinners will have to give a definite answer, but Strip is not the right object.
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Most of the items received during the dinners contain strips. My personal opinion is that it would be good to group the entire series together under the heading of comics, even though there are exceptions in the form of flyers and smarties packaging with pictures from the same comic.
As far as I'm concerned, the same applies to the Parastone figurines series by Suske en Wiske. You can't see it completely in Lastdodo either, because two of the figurines of the same material were issued as bookends and have therefore been given a different classification (…)
Wondering how we should deal with this!
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Rikki-Erik
You already keep them together (in Other) by putting them in the same series "Vandersteen diner", regardless of the Object. You can link to it from another section.
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Rikki-Erik Collectioneur
It's just the other way around: the "object" determines where you put it (other, folder, packaging, ...) and then you link this item to "strips - Suske en Wiske".
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That's right, but you can give items multiple links. In the Other section you can place any (different) Object in the same series. From Comics, you can link to that series in Other.
However, it must first be made clear what kind of objects these are. A brochure with a comic should not be in Comics, but this cannot be deduced from the current description.
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user-1713548 Collectioneur Rikki-Erik
I agree with Jummeke.
What is the basic rule/principle when entering on LastDodo.
That's right, what the object is determines in which section it goes.
So a comic at Strips. Parastone at Figurines, brochures at Other. And link.
If you did it differently here for 1 time, you would create 'precedents'.
Always dangerous. For sprawl and references to…
And it's human nature: always trying to get around the rules.
And if you still want to get together in Other: Use the field theme.
And put eg Strips: Suske en Wiske - Vandensteen diner.
You can also do it via series.
And comics always belong to Comics.
Mention the story/stories.
If I search for 'Clean pollekes' in comics, you won't find that now.
Only if you search via the search bar at the top of all (72) collections.
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So a comic at Strips. Parastone at Figurines, brochures at Other. And link.
If you did it differently here for 1 time, you would create 'precedents'.
Always dangerous. For sprawl and references to…

(Almost) everyone agrees. What it's about here is what these objects are. A flyer, brochure, menu or invitation card with comics does not belong in Comics. The description of these items is not entirely clear to determine this.
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Collectioneur user-1713548 Rikki-Erik darker Hookend
#5513563 : strip - info see back
#5513587 : turn the smarties packaging into a paper doll
#5513603 : folder contains 2 folders
#5819783 : print
#5819785 : comic
#6157387 : comic
#6157403 : comic
#6462531 : comic
#9775133 : comic
#6723429 : comic
#7075575 : auction booklet
#7483077 : ?
#9477653 : print
#9477561 : catalogue/comic
#9241425 : print
#9477395 : ? presumably a comic, but I'm not Turkish
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This section name can be confusing. Originally it was a more thematic collection of all things comics. Nowadays:

a comic BOOK at Strips.
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buizer Don't be too quick to say Strip unless you own the objects. It could just as well be a folder, invitation or menu or something if we don't see the inside.
For a few, Rikki-Erik can already help us, because I see he put them in.
And what's wrong with that postcard (which isn't from S&W), or did you give the wrong item number?
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The info is with the item.
Or is stated with the item.
The object does have a strip.
But in the details it is indicated what the object is.
Or can you deduce from it.
And otherwise Rikki-Erik can post some pictures for clarification.
But sometimes you have to take something for granted.
That auction booklet also looks like a comic. But if you read the text on the item, you know that it is not a real comic.
Of course you can question everything.
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buizer ea #9477395 : info: In Afacan (weekly) you could read a Turkish, redrawn version of De Groene Splinter (in Turkish Beyaz Maskeliler after the original French title Les Masques Blancs - The White Masks ) which was also published by Sait Yurdagül publishers.
Don't mention it..
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user-1713548 And what is the forum for?
Leike-w has solved #9477395 in the meantime.
And if you see 'pictures' there is a good chance that it is a comic, many or few pages.
A gag of a few pictures is also a comic.
And what about the newspaper publications? Also comics.
Have viewed all photos and read the text.
1 fact is certain.
That it is what is.
But object 'strip' at Other is not possible.
Why have the calendars been removed from Strips. Because they aren't comics. Easy. Ditto the brochures with comics
And rikki himself indicated why there is a comic there.
He just wants to be able to see the items together.
And there is 'sinned' against the basic principles
And I don't think that's possible.
While there are other solutions for this.

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At a later time (provided I have the object) I will provide the correct classification for the object and, if it concerns a comic, add the story title(s).
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buizer If those 'pictures' are on a 'card' or 'folder' then it's not a 'comic'. I think you know that something isn't right here.
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#5819785 : folded card with a strip on it (not a postcard, not a New Year's card, so what?)
#6157387 : comic book is correct
#6157403 : comic book is correct

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Oh no and why not?
Gags and rounded stories go in comics, no matter how short they are
And for me this is the case here.
Clippings are even allowed in and that's not a complete story, but then they all have to be in it.
So #5819785 is a card folded in half with a strip on it.
One will put it under other map, another maybe under folder.
But I think there is a story here And so with comics.
See handbook 1.3

Collectioneur 1.6 and 1.8 in the comics handbook shouldn't that be updated?
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There is still a lot to be done, so those 19 items in Other do not have a high priority. Rikki-Erik has already committed to putting the correct info on those items, let's wait for that first.
It is known that we want and will clean up the rubrics, but this is an ongoing process that will take a very long time. Numbers of items are regularly transferred to another category where they belong better in terms of subject. We will not speed up this migration process, because otherwise mistakes may be made.
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