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FransS vertigo
Do you find it difficult that book and record NLC
With the help of those own numbers in the past, I was able to pass on the series of book and record through selection and a fairly large number of plates, think about 5 years ago or longer?
Think you should think about that too
The example of the singles I gave coincidentally picked up that order
Couldn't find another quickly
But I think you can find something like this with all thirteen “mistakes”.
That numbering is useful is certain
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Could a new "Number addition" field help?
Under "Number in series".

Must of course be of added value for multiple series and not just solve this possible problem.
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A new field does not seem like a good solution to me, because:
a. I don't think it solves Dick's problem. You don't get them in order with number addition (I thought).
b. it is not a number addition, but a different number. It's a kind of cheating.
c. it doesn't get any easier for the users. I suspect it's mostly confusing.

I can come up with another cheat solution for the problem. The release number of the Book and Plate etc. publications is, in my opinion, the same as the number in the Book and Plate series. You could enter an extra label next to Fontana. The extra label is then Fontana [Book and Plate-NLC].

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Today I don't have time to contribute further to this discussion.
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Collectioneur FransS vertigo @Jilles

I have quoted Book and Plate because I have something with it
But there are more
It would be nice if it could come through a link with series name and number
Kind of pop-up if you fill in series name with question with number? And then that connects

We are now talking about a small Label, but at Philips CBS Capitol we are talking about many more items

It would be nice if something like this could be realized
I'll try to complete the series again soon
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As an addition, we can immediately think of a record box 6 lp where release number 6x is different, that can also be used, perhaps a bit much to ask, but it would be nice
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A new field doesn't seem like a good solution to me

That's fine, then let's leave it like that.
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I think it's a bit shortsighted
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Could a new "Number addition" field help?
Under "Number in series".

Must of course be of added value for multiple series and not just solve this possible problem.
A new "Number addition" field does not solve the problem. The number you put in there is not linked to either of the two sequences. What we want is for each series to have its own "Number in series" field. Not sure if that is programmable.
Many series have already been made; some don't require a "Number in sequence". I am thinking, for example, of the Favorites Express series. The items contained therein are not numbered. But it is useful for many other series. The order can be used to date items.

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Book and Plate is a tricky one. I looked at it and there is a series and a label. It is difficult to get an order in the series: there are different types of numbers: GS-013, but you also see CS-042, SCBP 1016, F 761/1, etc. You also have to deal with various labels: Fontana, Philips , 11 Provinces, Decca, Polydor, His Master's Voice, Imperial etc. How do you get an order in that? I think there are two possibilities: Put Book & Plate in a series without putting the release numbers in the "Number in series" field or we make it into a label. In both ways you have all Book & Plate editions together by year, alphabet or release number. My preference is for the first option: the series.
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What we want is for each series to have its own "Number in series" field. Not sure if that is programmable

But "Number in series" is always linked to the series, isn't it?
How do you currently use "Number in series"?

Or maybe a Sub-series is a solution, as is used in the Figurines section. Here's an example of the series Gogo's Crazy Bones " and then on the left the different Sub-series.
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I really made a lot of use of the book selection and then number order in the series works fine, it really helps you
Especially since various labels are part of it
Let me first state that so Fontana sequence with lp is top
Only within Fontana small label you also have an advantage to use numbering in the series in that series for musical for millions
And with book and record it seems chaotic, but there is a thought behind it.
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https://www.lastdodo.nl/nl/areas/462109-boek-en-plaat?sort_by=sort_order&sort_by_id=153

Seems chaotic because you see the various labels mixed up and numbered
while I put the selection in order numbering sequence
Normally with a label you numbering directly up or down
Therefore a strange order

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Just outside book and record
The ability to select on fields helps a lot to quickly intercept duplicate entries
And also gives nice overviews
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Looked a little further
Eurovision Song Contest is, in my opinion, a fairly large series
If I used that it will use by year!
You can also do series in order
You just see nonsense.

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Seems chaotic because you see the various labels mixed up and numbered
The overview mainly looks chaotic because the Release numbers are included, while the default sorting is "Sequential number in series".
You would expect (when you have selected a Series) that the Number in Series is listed in that view.
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The overview mainly looks chaotic because the Release numbers are included, while the default sorting is "Sequential number in series".

It was once decided to show the Release number in the List and Gallery view instead of Number in the series. Due to the limited space, both numbers cannot be displayed at the same time. The display is the same for every sort, cannot be adjusted per sort.
If it is desired that the Number in the series is visible, then the Release number will no longer be visible in the overviews.

Incidentally, with the sorting 'Sequential number in series', the order is indeed in the order of that number, even if that number is not visible in the overview.
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I think that is also difficult
In the beginning so years ago I also had something like hey not right
So it does
And indeed the labels are mixed up, but the numbering in the series is correct from high to low and vice versa
If it is possible to link each series to its own numbering
Is beautiful

Ps by sorting by series I immediately encountered an error (song festival)
Ps passed on to Frans
That's the advantage of selecting for something

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But "Number in series" is always linked to the series, isn't it?
How do you currently use "Number in series"?
Yes that's right. Is linked to the sequence and is used that way. But if one item is in two series, you need two "Number in series" fields.
Or maybe a Sub-series is a solution, as is used in the Figurines section. Here's an example of the series Gogo's Crazy Bones " and then on the left the different Sub-series
This could be possible for some series if the subseries is fully part of the "main" series. But that's not always the case. For example, Dick's Book and Plate series. Some items fall into the Fontana range, but others do not.

Basically what we're doing is splitting the Phonogram and Polygram release numbers as they intended. The release numbers consist of two parts: a sequence number and a number in the sequence. Example: Ekseption's Single Adagio series has number 6012 013. It is therefore part of the Phonogram Singles series 6012. That series only contains singles by Dutch artists that start with 6012. the 013 is therefore the sequence number in the series. Sometimes these singles are also in another series (Favourites Express or Musical Memories) but the Sequence number in series field is already in use.

The series are fantastic: you can see at a glance whether there are duplicates, whether the dating is correct and how many are still missing.
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Especially that last one that FransS indicated, you quickly see what is double and a small typo in the songs and what is also nice is the various versions of the cover(s) if there are any
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