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March 17, 2022 08:08
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There appear to be different versions of Zonneland, among others.
This is for example volume 1948 which is now still with Comics
And here Volume 1948 which can be found under Magazines.

Perhaps that aynic and/or Quartertemper can say a little more about the different editions of that Solar..... magazines.
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Exactly indeed an alternative Dutch version, but not weekly (monthly/14 days).
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Your links are identical, but Zonneland is the same as Zonneland [Eucharistic] (magazine).
Published in Breda, from 1924.
I think it has absolutely nothing to do with the Belgian Zonneland from Averbode (since 1920).

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Thanks for the tip, link has been corrected.
So this series Zonneland from Comics can be added to this Zonneland bij Tijdschriften ?
And this series Zonneland can go to Magazines like Zonneland [Averbode]?
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Collectioneur The answer to the second question is yes --> Averbode.
And maybe also immediately check the Publishers (what is the rule for this, the actual publisher listed or arrange something with aliases?)
For your alias info or background page:
Altiora Averbode has been known as "Goede Pers", "Altiora", "Altiora Averbode", "NV Altiora", "NV Averbode", and now "Uitgeverij Averbode".
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And this series Zonneland can go to Magazines like Zonneland [Averbode]?
Do you mean Averbode as a publisher's name or as a place name?
The Dutch magazine did not have a separate publisher (only an editorial team), so in the second case you could make Zonneland [Breda] out of that.
But maybe Zonneland [NLD] and Zonneland [BEL]  are more in accordance with Arco's guidelines.
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I can't give any further explanation about those magazines Zonne....
 
Based on Delpher, you can indeed combine Zonneland from Comics with Zonneland bij Tijdschriften.
 
And this one Zonneland at Comics can then be merged with Zonneland [BEL] at Magazines. I am not familiar with this magazine, but based on the volume numbering I assume that this is the same magazine.
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For the Belgian branch ... Averbode produces magazines for school-going youth, from toddler to teenager. Doremi and Top can certainly be added, but maybe we should look in reverse for all spellings of this publisher and then move them.
Edit: Of course they are also a book publisher, but that's another story.
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I will also dive into these rays of sunshine and see how we can best register that in LD. Taking into account all the info already given of course.
Thx everyone.
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I'm trying to get the whole magazine and newspaper section in order. I started with the genres, but that's already a hell of a job. Starting to get an idea of how we can solve some of the more difficult issues in that list. In any case, genres have been reduced from 5700+ to just under 4300. Still a lot to do, but we're getting there.

In this case for the publisher, I propose:
Averbode with alias Altiora
That's how they both appear in the list of publishers.
We're just stuck with "Good Press", because we can only enter one alias per language.
Is there anything that can be done? Because there are several terms that you can think of or use for more aliases.

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As administrator, add multiple aliases separated by a comma to the main name. The search function turns them over automatically. I hope it works everywhere.
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Thx user-1713548 . I did not know that yet. Go try it right away. :D
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Yes, it works. Learned something again. So that's also solved.
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Note that you should also look at the publisher "Altiora/Averbode". This should then be merged with "Averbode".
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Yep, already initiated. Only there were so many that it takes a little longer.
Thx Collectioneur 
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Another question Tammo:
Is it possible to add a genre or publisher to all copies of one title at once?

In the case of Zonneland [BEL] (https://www.lastdodo.nl/nl/areas/4981767-solarland-bel ) means, for example, adding Belgium to the Country of Publication, which is currently unknown or not filled in.


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The It happens quite often that this has to be done with Newspapers and Magazines. Mainly because it has been a bit of a neglected child of course.

I have not yet figured out how that is possible in one go.

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March 27, 2022 10:23
 Is it possible to add a genre or publisher to all copies of one title at once, for example?

That is not possible. This is only possible when migrating items from one category to another. Fields can be assigned a fixed value.
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That's what I thought. Too bad. Then it has to be done by hand. 2000+ times. [cry cry]
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Zonneland [BEL] has now been completely transferred from Comics to Magazines. All curio links to Zonneland (magazine) in Comics have been removed, and as a result Zonneland (magazine) has disappeared from Comics.

In Comics there are now 28 items from Zonnekind (magazine) and 29 items from Sunbeam (magazine).
Due to a technical reason, these items cannot yet be migrated to the Magazines section. All other items of these sheets have already been transferred.
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Collectioneur Nice work. Here's some more ... (and do a good search because they are not all together with those different publishers)
- the Holiday book/Christmas book/Easter book from Comics to Books
- 2x Top Magazine from Comics to Magazines (which are lost)
- Doremi and Prutske from Comics to Magazines


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You mean this Christmas books ?
And Prutske/Doremi (magazine) ?

Which Top Magazines do you mean?
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Collectioneur A lot of work done again, thank you!
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Marking everything as "wrong category" is a bit useless if you're making it a big project.
The series names and publishers are not uniform (both in Comics and in Books), so you may have to put everything together. It's a matter of keeping track of it ;-).
But it is indeed about those Christmas books, there are even more if you search for Zonneland, Zonnebeam, holiday book, altiora, ...
You have indeed Prutske already found, but there are still more than 150 Doremi hidden (again publisher to be checked by someone with some more experience).
Top is #5629405 and #5629415, but that's called also different in Magazines.

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 Marking everything as "wrong category" is a bit useless if you're making a big project out of it.

It is certainly not the intention to indicate all these items as Wrong section.
I specifically mentioned the Zonne-blads, because this has been talked about for much longer.
The publishers Averbode, Altiora, Goede Pers, GP have now been merged into Averbode (Altiora, Goede Pers) at Comics.
The magazines that are clearly not comic magazines will gradually be transferred to Magazines. Doremi seems like a great candidate for this.
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For those interested: Averbode (the good press) is no more. The publishing house has been sold and comes into Dutch hands. End of an era.
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