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Who can help me with some more information about this game? Such as: who issued it (manufacturer?), What year, what was the circulation? Thanks in advance!

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  • January 30, 2013 14:26
January 30, 2013 14:26

Manufacturer is unknown to me.

The game was in the Christmas package at AKZO.

Not even able to find out what the year of issue was through the PR and HR department of AKZO, let alone the circulation.

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January 30, 2013 15:03

592265 and 428679 were issued by Akzo as part of the corporate project “More focus on operations”, which was started at the end of 1983 (see this pdf )

Nico Stalenburg dates them to 1986/1987, see http://www.mallejongen.nl/?page_id=437

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January 30, 2013 16:16

I know that the puzzle was handed out at a big party that was organized at AKZO Hengelo (in a party tent) and that was in the context of "Attention to Operations". During that party Koos Alberts was present as singer.

It is not known to me that "The Big Max Bravo Lick Game" had anything to do with the project "Attention to Operations".

I only know that this game was included in the Christmas package.

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Nico Stalenburg

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January 30, 2013 16:32

Sorry, Nico, I had not yet made the link with NiSta ;-)

A newspaper report from the Leeuwarder Courant dates the start of the campaign to 1986, so the dissertation I linked to is apparently not completely reliable.

A Rejected picture with the game showing a card where there is an "AVO meeting", which makes me suspect that the figure Max Bravo was designed as a mascot for that project.

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Hello Peter,

Thank you for the link to the Leeuwarder Courant. On the basis of that article, the puzzle can almost certainly be assigned the year 1986.

From the staff of Akzo Zout Chemie (AKZO Hengelo) I understand that the aforementioned party (with Koos Alberts) is a kind of "kick-off. "party was related to the AVO project. At the end of that party, the relevant puzzle was handed out to each member of the staff.

From the same staff I know that "The big Max Bravo game" is of a later date. It was also remembered that it was in a Christmas package. Unfortunately no more. This makes the game almost certainly from 1987.

I had never noticed before that Max Bravo is / was the "mascot" of the AVO project. But the resemblance of the figure on the puzzle (without a name) with Max Bravo on the box of the game is very clear.

Why you call the card "a rejected picture" is not clear to me. It is a normal "Too bad" card out of the game. Obviously a part of the game.

I don't know how you found the article in the Leeuwarder Courant, but if you "know the way" within such media, you might be able to find out / find out how many staff members AZC in 1986. The number / circulation of puzzles and games will reasonably correspond to that number.

With kind regards

Nico Stalenburg

(lived in Hengelo (o) in 1986 , only worked at the neighbor of AZC, the Hollandse Signaal Apparaten and later at Hazemeyer)

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January 30, 2013 19:41

I meant that the photo was rejected by the catalog item , I think because of the Marktplaats watermark.

I'll check if I can find anything about the number of Akzo employees

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February 04, 2013 17:16

At the moment, AZC employs 4000 people, 3700 of them in the Netherlands. In total, the Dutch divisions of the Akzo group have 32,000 employees.

De Telegraaf 04-01-1986

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February 05, 2013 08:35

Hello Peter,

There are still quite a few employees, 4000 of which 3700 in the Netherlands.

Then the circulation of the puzzle and the game will probably not exceed 4000.

Although with such a number I would have expected that I would come across it more often / more on the internet, a fair, market or thrift store.

I visit part 12 of the General more often against then the puzzle or the Max Bravo game, while part 12 is "scarce".

My assumption was / is that the edition would remain at approximately 1000 pieces, but there are probably a few more.

Thank you for your search.

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Nico Stalenburg

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February 23, 2013 15:38

Employees from AKZO Delfzijl also went to the party in Hengelo in 1986, they also received a puzzle.

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