Postcards/Payments from Catawiki42 messages

If we buy something through the auction, you have to pay within a certain period.

When does Catawiki have to transfer the money if you have sold something?

if everything goes well (no complaints Buyer) between 2 and 3 weeks

@ laura4
When does Catawiki have to transfer the money if you have sold something?

This is stated in the terms and conditions and is also indicated in the confirmation to the seller that the highest bidder has paid.
If there are no details, the invoice for the seller will be paid 2 weeks after receipt of the payment by the buyer, on the next Wednesday.

The exact date of payment can be found in the email from Catawiki stating that the buyer's payment has been received and his or her address ...

Now the following problem about the payments that several sellers encounter:

October 8, 2014 2 lots have been sold by me, so far nothing has been heard whether the seller has paid.
How long can this take?
The cards are ready for dispatch (this will mean that the payment from Catawiki to me will also take longer). Once the buyer pays, it will take about 2 to 3 weeks.
So it will take an extra long before you receive the money!

That's absolutely right. If you want to be paid immediately, offering via a (Catawiki) auction is not the fastest way.

For example, Marktplaats is more "butter with the fish" trade, so make an assessment based on parameters that are important to you. (speed, yield, fun and just make up a few more) where and how you offer and (possibly) sell things.

of course you can also spread it, just as you should not lay all your money (if you already have it) on one point,

for example you can use multiple sites and where likely a high yield is for that particular item where you have to be patient between offering and payment, and where you know it does not bring a lot, but it is faster and you decide what and how and with everything that is left you go once a year a good flea market.

Sometimes you (I) are of course too quick to respond. Just received another payment (Belgium) and that will of course also take longer.

dat duurt natuurlijk ook langer

dat wordt nog wel eens als smoesje gebruikt maar sinds sepa er is gaat het net zo snel

that of course also takes longer

that is sometimes used as an excuse, but since sepa has been there, things have moved just as quickly

Okay, I didn't know that. But now I am selling something through Catawiki, if the payment has been received at the site I have to ship within 3 days (with me that is no problem, I usually try to do that the same or the next day). But what about the buyer, who therefore 'won' something on 8 October, in what period does the buyer have to pay that amount to Catawiki? Generally when I buy something through a site I try to pay for it the same or the next day.

~~Conform de veilingvoorwaarden dien je binnen drie dagen te betalen.

Staat allemaal in de Veilingvoorwaarden naar beneden scrollen

en dan gebruiksvoorwaarden

~~According to the auction conditions, you must pay within three days.

It's all in the Auction Conditions scroll down

and then terms of use

Wat dient er verstaan te worden onder deze Catawiki formulering?

Deze kavel(s) worden op woensdag XX/XX/2014 uitbetaald, ervan uitgaand dat de levering goed is verlopen.

What should be understood by this Catawiki formulation?

These lot(s) will be paid out on Wednesday XX/XX/2014, assuming the delivery went well.

What should be understood by this Catawiki wording?

These lot (s) will be paid out on Wednesday XX / XX / 2014, assuming that the delivery went well.

If there is no delivery, or if there is a difference of opinion about the delivery between buyer and seller, no payment will be made (yet) ....

If it appears that the seller has sent it and the buyer has not received it, who will pay for the costs?

Je vervangt één onduidelijke omschrijving door een andere onduidelijke :

of als er een verschil van mening over de levering is tussen koper en verkoper wordt er (nog) niet uitbetaald....

Wat dient er verstaan te worden over dit 'verschil van mening over de levering''?

You replace one unclear description with another unclear one:

or if there is a difference of opinion about the delivery between buyer and seller, payment is not (yet) made....

What should be understood about this ' dispute about delivery '?

I don't know if this can help, but what I put in my ad is the following:

Shipping at buyer's risk, unless registered on request.

I know just not whether this is sufficient.

Consumer law:

Delivery not received

The entrepreneur bears the burden of proof for delivery of the ordered product.

The Consumer Disputes Committee has ruled that a status overview from TNT that the package has been delivered is not sufficient. It must be signed for receipt.

A difference of opinion can be, for example, that the lot description is in new condition and that it appears that the items are not

You replace one unclear description with another unclear one:

or if there is a difference of opinion about the delivery between buyer and seller, payment will not be made (yet) ....

What should be understood about this' difference of opinion on the delivery ' '?

Exactly what it says: Buyer and seller disagree about the delivered item ....

You replace one unclear description with another unclear one:

or if there is a difference of opinion about the delivery between buyer and seller, no payment is made (yet) ....

What should be understood about this' difference of opinion on the delivery ' '?

Exactly what it says: Buyer and seller disagree about the delivered item ....

This allows arbitrariness.

So even if a seller sends a trackable shipment, a buyer may for some reason not agree 'he disagrees about the delivered item 'make problems so that the payment will be blocked and the seller has lost his object, but the buyer can recover his payment.

This is the umpteenth' platform 'where sellers risk the dupe fraud / defrauding by a buyer, at the sole discretion of this buyer

You replace one unclear description with another unclear one:

or if there is a difference of opinion about the delivery between buyer and seller, no payment is made (yet) ....

What should be understood about this' difference of opinion on the delivery ' '?

Exactly what it says: Buyer and seller disagree about the delivered item ....

Can you indicate where this is stated in Catawiki's terms of use?

http://www.catawiki.nl/conditions/terms-and-conditions-nl.pdf

e replaces one unclear description with another unclear one:

or if there is a difference of opinion about the delivery between buyer and seller, payment will not be made (yet) ....

What should be understood about this' difference of opinion on the delivery ' '?

Exactly what it says: Buyer and seller disagree about the delivered item ....

Can you indicate where this is stated in Catawiki's terms of use?

No idea! This seems like a great question for customer support and not for the collectors forum ...

De ondernemer??? onder elke aanbieding bij de veiling die ik aanbied  staat als laatste regel dat ik als prive persoon handel.

ik koop dus in duitsland van een prive persoon en dan.....

Laut Gesetz (§ 447 BGB) trägt das Verlustrisiko nach der ordnungsgemäßen Aufgabe des Pakets allein der Käufer. Vorausgesetzt, beim Käufer handelt es sich um eine Privatperson

hoe was het ook weer cata gaat international dan kun je wel zeggen de rechtspersoon zit in Assen maar hoe denkt een duitse Rechter daarover

zo makkelijk is het allemaal niet

The entrepreneur??? under every offer at the auction that I offer, the last line is that I act as a private person.

So I buy in Germany from a private person and then .....

Laut Gesetz (§ 447 BGB) trägt das Verlustrisiko nach der ordnungsgemäßen Aufgabe des Pakets allein der Käufer. Vorausgesetzt, beim Käufer acts es sich um eine Privatperson

how was it again cata goes international then you can say the legal person is in Assen but what does a german judge think about that

it's not all that easy

It's not that easy

Lawyers make gold money from the unification of Europe :)

So I buy from a private person in Germany and then .....

Laut Gesetz (§ 447 BGB) trägt das Verlustrisiko nach der ordnungsgemäßen Aufgabe des Pakets allein der Käufer. Vorausgesetzt, beim Käufer acts es sich um eine Privatperson

how was it again cata goes international then you can say the legal entity is in Assen, but what does a German judge think about that

This is incorrect!

Bürgerliches Gesetzbuch

§ 447

Gefahrübergang beim Versendungskauf

(1) Versendet der Verkäufer auf Verlangen des Käufers die verkaufte Sache nach einem andere Ort als dem Erfüllungsort, so geht die Gefahr auf den Käufer über, sobald der Verkäufer die Sache dem Spediteur, dem Frachtführer oder der sonstührend zur bestimmten Person oder Anstalt ausgeliefert hat.

(2) Hat der Käufer eine besondere Anweisung über die Art der Versendung erteilt und weicht der Verkäufer ohne urgent Grund von der Anweisung ab, so ist der Verkäufer dem Käufer für den daraus entstehenden Schaden verantwortlich.

The loss of shipment is only for the buyer if, at the buyer's request, shipping is sent to an address other than the buyer's address.