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Concerns Dupuis editions, series 2.
Album nr. 1. It appears three times, I think they are all the same type of copy, but all three also have a collector.

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October 16, 2008 22:35

Looks strange indeed.
It is also strange that two of the three were entered by envy.
I also don't understand why there would be a second series.
The first parts are simply revised reprints and should, in my opinion, be given ab. Or are the sequence numbers also different within the series? Then there is indeed a second series.

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October 16, 2008 23:14

I have too little knowledge about this series, So the so-called 2nd series, I have complete, I thought they would all be 1st edition, but according to some not.
Indeed I would also put everything under 1 series, and then give the apparent 2nd edition a b.
If other collectors agree, please let us know their response.

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From 1980 they started with the reprints of Flip Flink and supplemented with a few titles. I see these as reprints, as I initially entered them. I reduced the first particle to 1b, then that title is still in it 2x too much…

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October 17, 2008 08:40

We remove those two from Envy and transfer the collectors mentioned there to the copy of Jilles (because that is the most complete in terms of info).
This is an interesting case to discuss further. I wouldn't give this a b number myself. With a b or c song I think more of an album that will be released at the same time but is a variant like the different covers of The Flying Heart in the Ciso series. Or the deviant back cover of Agent 327: Three Adventures - File 10. Or the “White Heinz”.
I would consider this FF as part 1 in a new album series because it is a much longer series than the original series (13 vs 6 parts) and there are also some revisions (I believe that the second series also has some smaller size). Also for the sake of clarity a second album series seems better here. I think that's an important criterion. If you are going to designate all reprints with letters then you will need the entire alphabet at Suske en Wiske :-)
What do you think?

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October 17, 2008 11:59

It seems very confusing to me to see all parts 1 within the same series, being first and reprints. That's my primary response.
And as far as Flip Flink is concerned: the publisher is the same, and in your opinion these are sometimes revised editions that can be indicated with a letter. So what difference does it make that after the reprints have continued with previously unpublished stories? I still don't see a reason for that second series.

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October 17, 2008 12:27

The double Flip Flinks are gone.
A little more about whether / not an extra album series. Do you think that in Suske en Wiske a part of the original Flemish Red Series that was subsequently issued by Standaard in another 20 variants (two-color series, four-color series, etc.) should be indicated with 20 letters after the number?

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October 17, 2008 12:44

I am not a Suske en Wiske expert, but the original Flemish series was still at the end when the switch was made to ABN and everything after that came in four colors or something?
I'm a bit double in it. On the one hand, as a collector, I want to be able to put all my books in it, including the correct information. You want to be able to say, "I have the version with that letter." If you look in your collection and you see three albums all called number 4 and you don't immediately see what the difference is, it seems confusing to me. On the other hand, I understand that you cannot continue that indefinitely in series of which there are many reprints. But it still pinches ...

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October 17, 2008 22:50

It's just a thought… ..
All 1st editions (including revised editions, etc) are primarily visible in the database, reprints are visible when you click on the image album or on a link at the bottom of the image.
A pop-up or new screen is created containing the reprints of that album… numbered with year and possibly. sub letter.

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