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#8641231
Excerpt from the cover of 'De kwaaie kwieten' (Suske en Wiske 1st edition in 1987).
The (simple?) question: is this a legal or illegal 'product'?
Bearing in mind that VDS did not/never 'provided' cooperation in advertising for certain products or purposes.
For example tobacco.
The manufacturer mentioned in/on this item is a manufacturer of cigars...
Then this would have to date from after 1990 after his death.
And it could well be that an illegal item was once sold via LD/Catawiki.
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April 23, 2024 10:52
I am sure that illegal items have been sold through the site\auction. It has not always been explicitly prohibited and enforcement is a problem as long as an item has not been formally declared illegal.

And I agree with you that the chances of this lighter being legal are very slim.
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April 24, 2024 10:07
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It is not unlikely that the use of the image took place without permission, but I see no conclusive evidence.


Bearing in mind that VDS did not/never 'provided' cooperation in advertising for certain products or purposes.

What is this statement based on? Is that a statement from Vandersteen himself?


The manufacturer mentioned in/on this item is a manufacturer of cigars...

Doesn't seem very likely to me. If it were an advertising article from Senator Cigaren, this would be stated much more emphatically. The lettering also does not appear to be the same as that of the Senator Cigars.
In this case it is most likely just a brand (or type) of (cheap) lighters. The name may be a reference to the Ronson Senator lighter.
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Maybe VDS liked a good cigar every now and then.
Enough cigar bands with Suske and Wiske.
So yes, VDS cooperated with advertising for certain 'purposes'.
And probably a Ronson Senator lighter.
See #1731823
#8641231 legal? illegal? Manufacturing?
Benefit of the doubt, surely?
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Sorry, I don't think it's really a Ronson. It was more to indicate that the name Senator is more commonly used for lighters.
#8641231 resembles in shape an imitation of an American Cli-Cla disposable lighter (see for example Ebay: Cli-Cla Bat Masterson). Manufacturing seems a little less likely to me. Benefit of the doubt, I would also say.
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