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1917, 1918 and 1919 State coat of arms (II)
Both in the past and now the rule in the manual reads as follows:
"...Year of issue [space] name of the Issue..."
"Year" once and not three times "Year".
Except for a super administrator who approved naturally his own change.
The exception confirms the rule...
Very promising!

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Your reference 1917, 1918 and 1919 State coat of arms (II) doesn't invite to respond. I would like to see the stamps that it's applied to. Like: 1916-1937 Postzegelboekjes, 1916/17 Bulgaarse bezetting van Roemenië, 1917-1925 Portzegels (tanding 11;zonder watermerk) and so your 1917-1919 Staatswapen (II). In the first three cases the added period was not done by the 'beheerders'.  
In your example, the change was made by a "superbeheerder', but it was done on 2023-08-13, long before the latest discussion about 'Uitgifte groep'. So I think it was an attempt to solve a (potential) problem in the catalogue and the only thing you can blame them for is approving their own contribution. I think that must be done with the upmost restraint. That was the way it was done by Postmaster in the past, but nowadays it's used by other managers whenever they can use it. And, by the way, the first person who changed a year of the 'Uitgifte groep' into a period was someone else, probably also meant to solve the same (potential) problem in the catalogue.
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See the history of 1917, 1918 and 1919 State coat of arms (II)
The name was changed by another administrator half an hour after my message and of the three years two years were made.
However, the manual is clear.
Old text:
"... For long-term series whose stamps must remain together as a series, you must complete only one year, namely the year of issue of the first stamp in the series."
New text: (NL)
"De naamgeving is: Jaartal [spatie] Naam van de Uitgifte groep. Jaartal is eerste jaar van uitgifte van de samenhangende items." 
It is not by raping the text in the manual that you point out a problem, but on the forum. 
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April 19, 2024 14:24
It was briefly considered a very good idea to place the years as YYYY-YYYY in the name of an Issue group, if the items from that aggregation are spread over several years. However, there are strange consequences in places where the name Issue group is used.
Normally, therefore, the idea was not stopped now.
But there are a few (2) users (including an administrator) who look further into possible consequences and whether the idea can perhaps be used after all.
That is why, unfortunately, it is sometimes necessary to have an Issue group name that is a bit mutilated and not in accordance with the agreements.
I don't think there can be any question of violating (misusing) the rules, or breaking the rules on purpose.
It'll be fine.
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I thought that the administrators should act with full knowledge of the facts, which means that the rules of the manual should be followed. 
The administrators are expected to lead by example; not for some.
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Sometimes, with a view to achieving a good goal in the long term, it is necessary to color outside the lines briefly and to a limited extent. To discover the effect (and side effects). Afterwards it will be cleaned up.
There is no Development and/or Test setup for users/administrators, with separate test data. There is only one LD. It's complicated enough as it is.
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