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I find such a block in a paper catalogue, Michel 16, but in a series with 'schwarzen auf silberen Bdr.-Audruck'.
The print here is clearly red on silver...
I cannot find any reference to a possible earlier or later print in a different color. My catalog of Central Africa is almost 10 years old.
Anyone have an idea what's going on here?

Possibly a local industrious person was creative...
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Format International Security Printers!

https://golowesstamps.com/reference/formatprinters/FormatInternationalSecurityPrinters.htm

Opinions about this printing company are strongly divided. There is a connection there with Clive Feigenbaum who does not exactly have a clean image.
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Yes, I know many cowboy stories from that man. He bought, among other things, an uninhabited island so that he could make a stamp for it.
It is responsible for tens of thousands of illegal issues worldwide, and has not become poorer for it. Well infamous.
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I don't think this one with red print exists.
Here is the original 1977 overprint of a 1976 block.
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There is no visible indication that the red print has been tampered with. The source is known for its many variants - with or without the client's consent - and for its inadequate archives. It looks like the red print exists. The question then is what its status is.
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I think so too, but definitely? No...hence the forum. Maybe someone knows more about it. I'm not going to just relegate something to 'Fantasyland' or the area with the addition of ' - Illegal releases'. There must be reasonable certainty.
I use several sources for this, including this one mentioned by Esquerdo, from John Lowe.
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It's certainly not an ink swap. It's a completely different stamp. The font in the black, known version is neat (the 2 N letters look the same). They are different in the red version.
In any case, the C is shaped completely differently. And the red letters are not all the same height or width.


The possibility that some creative person might have painted it on by hand...
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If you pay attention to the two A's (on the red version), the first A is more round and a bit lower. The second A is higher and more straight.
I think someone tampered with it.
It doesn't seem to me that you are going to issue/print a stamp or block with all different letters/fonts.

Also the edge of the red version is weird, it's a kind of white edge (seems 3D) compared to the photo of the black one (isn't always reliable either, I could be wrong)
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The silver color appears shifted. There is a border that appears as if a previous silver print has been removed, without removing the border at all. One explanation could be that this is one of those more modern forgeries and someone removed the silver rectangles and then improperly added new ones with the red print. Then the silver should be a kind of foil stamping. This can be removed without damaging the rest of the print.
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March 26, 2024 21:12
Y&T states the overprint for this block 
"EMPIRE
CENTRAFRICAIN"
(2x)
Both for this item and for the many items that were similarly overprinted when the empire was founded in 1976-1977, Y&T always shows the shape and the nature of the letters of these overprints, but without mentioning the colour of the overprint anywhere. 
Y&T also explains that in general the colour of the overprint is stated if the overprint is not black.
For all the aforementioned overprints, the catalologue Y&T does not mention a colour anywhere, which suggests that Y&T does not know it itself or that the overprints have many possible colors at random.
See also:
https://www.histoire-et-philatelie.fr/pages/005_decolonisation/1240_ex-colonies_4.html
where some colours of overprints are mentioned. 
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#3020009

Also a home, garden and kitchen craft? Or other area?
In any case, Moldova's Mi 35b looks completely different #3019997 .
Cyriel to the rescue?


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Prepared but not spent
Does it say details, perhaps no stamp?
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idk, but it can't possibly be Mi 35b. That catalog code is for someone else.
Usually unissued stamps are included in the various catalogues. I don't like this one...
How can you know whether it is a handiwork or a prepared stamp that just didn't make it to the finish (issue)?

It is set in the period when thousands of crafts were made in large numbers based on such Soviet stamps.
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Another one like that
#3020795
I'm going to migrate it to Fantasyland.

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Good idea, if you don't agree, you will hear about it.
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