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August 30, 2012 20:05

I still have my doubts about lot 20, an appendix is mentioned separately which is simply part of a book, Eagle Eye extra! What is also extra mentioned in the item! In addition, they are talking about 10 lots. So there are only 9

Nowhere is the pressure mentioned!

Do they correspond with the items that are mentioned?

Have my doubts, see above.

To be honest, I wouldn't have wanted to respond to an auction anymore, but this has not been comfortable for me for days.

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August 30, 2012 20:14

An attachment is never standard, Dick, as practice often shows. It does not hurt at all to indicate this clearly.

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August 30, 2012 20:29

The pressure is not mentioned anywhere!

The linked catalog data does mention the pressure.

In addition, they are talking about 10 Lots. So there are only 9

It clearly says in the title 9 books and original competition; so a total of 10 items.

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August 30, 2012 23:09
slightly crooked reasoning. If I continue this simply then the white album Beatles the photos and poster are separate items! these contests just belonged in the first edition of the book! In addition, where it is indicated that the items correspond to catalog items, I have always understood that we use first edition, second, third and reprint (I am not in favor of that), yet there is suddenly a 7 edition in between? When reprinting where do I recognize that? I understand that your attachment is sometimes included separately, but this attachment is stated literally in the item, also indicate how carefully the lot has been added!
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August 30, 2012 23:46

Regarding the catalog: I regularly come across posters that came with LPs at flea markets, while the LP is nowhere to be seen. So: yes, those posters can also be imported separately into Catawiki. And with the relevant LP such a poster is neatly mentioned as an attachment. That is not double, is it? If I buy a poster, am I not going to put an LP in my collection? I don't even see from that poster that he was on an LP. I buy it as a poster, and in fact it is.

To come back to that book. That competition was probably not included in the entire edition, you know. Copies that were delivered after the contest submission date may no longer have that attachment at all.

I don't want to post about auctions.

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@Arco understand your story, only say your item without attachment is a new item! I don't think so, in your collection / shop you put the details without attachment! Sometimes you do not know that there is an attachment, that can happen, but it is clearly stated with this item! So if you put this item in your shop, is it with attachment or without?
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August 31, 2012 09:38

No, without an attachment it is not a new item, no. And it is better to state in your own notes where there is an attachment, than where there is no attachment. In general, I think all items in shops have no attachment, unless it is there. As a user, it also seems the safest to assume.

Catawiki is a mutating system and it is often only indicated at a later stage in the catalog that an item once had an attachment.

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August 31, 2012 10:35

@ Arco in the shop or own collection you can put this if it is missing no point, but if it is known that an attachment was originally included, it will still be in the catalog, although you will only find out later. you adjust the catalog item after all?

The fact that you also place the attachment in a poster - stiker - bookmark section or whatever, is separate from the item.

The point is that in this case the item was completely placed and described and the attachment is offered as a separate item. actually the attachment would have been present in this lot twice, which seems unlikely to me.

That shops sometimes or often I don't know, do not have the item complete, you can expect them to mention it. As soon as this is indicated in the item.

But without an attachment, can it be in new condition or with records near mint?

A book that has been released with a dust jacket can initially be place, but as soon as a copy with dust jacket is known, it will replace the item scan and do not place it as a new item.

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August 31, 2012 10:42

A dust jacket on a book that was published with a dust jacket is not seen as an attachment in Catawiki, but as part of the book, so let's leave the dust jacket alone.

Why is an item in an shop by default without attachment, unless it is stated? Because something can be in a shop as near mint for two years and attachments can be added to the catalog during that period without the shop owner noticing. When he put it in his shop, he thought it was near mint; therefore entirely in good faith. Countless solutions for this have already been proposed by us at Catawiki and are undoubtedly on a ToDo list.

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August 31, 2012 11:22

A dust jacket accompanying a book that has been published with a dust jacket is not seen in Catawiki as an attachment, but as part of the book

.... provided that the book is never was issued without that dust jacket, otherwise it would be an attachment (nudge, nudge, wink, wink, daily offer, fair edition, say no more, say no more) ;-)

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August 31, 2012 18:06

@ Arco

Why is an item in a shop without an attachment by default, unless it is listed? Because something can be in a shop as near mint for two years and attachments can be added to the catalog during that period without the shop owner noticing. When he put it in his shop, he thought it was near mint; therefore entirely in good faith. Numerous solutions for this have already been proposed by us at Catawiki and are undoubtedly on a ToDo list.

That's right and that is indeed a shortcoming, but you can see that set book is a placed for sale years ago I put six months later that it is with an attachment, you can see this through history in time, but perhaps a message could indeed be sent to the shops and collectors. has already been asked before

If the point remains, then what will be done with this message?

But as an interested party I know that there is an attachment.

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August 31, 2012 19:55

@Arco: In 2012, with the help of the Internet, it is quite possible to determine whether a book was published with or without a dust jacket. Only with extremely rare books it becomes difficult.

In my opinion a shop owner should first carefully investigate whether a certain book was indeed published without a dust jacket, before calling the book "near mint". If he has failed to do so, he will stay n.m. responsible for the inaccuracy of the description and would not call it "good faith", but at least "negligent".

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August 31, 2012 20:03

Misunderstanding. Near mint is used with Vinyl. So that's what I was talking about. Not about the Books section.

But still ... Catawiki shops are mostly from private individuals and you shouldn't expect anything from that when it comes to book history. They just want to sell their book. They see the book as they are in their hands, and often do not know at all that there was a dust jacket. These people are therefore - also at Boeken - in good faith if they offer such an item 'in new condition'.

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@Arco: I understand what you mean, but I do believe that many shop owners are overcharging. I regularly see clearly (visible on the scan) damaged objects, which are offered as good or even as new. I call that "deception".

Catawiki focuses a great deal on collectors. That is why you may n.m.m. set slightly higher requirements for description and correctness than when selling on Marktplaats. And if you've hardly ever read a book and don't know how to properly describe a book, it might be a good idea to choose a hobby other than selling books on Catawiki. This also applies to other items: some experience and care is the least you need for a successful Catawiki shop.

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@ Arco whether it is new or near mint does not matter the question is can you use this qualification if the attachment is missing?

Is it possible that people do not know.

If a private collector is wrong about that.

Only I mentioned it in the context of a lot and a pro too

This book is 12 times for sale, of which 2x new condition, of which 1 is mentioned without a brochure 896823 and those are the pro sellers.

This is a nice clear example, hence

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August 31, 2012 23:15

I'm not going to interfere, Dick. Sorry.

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