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Why is there no free entry for genre? Who compiled the list?

So right #10202331 added, a newspaper completely dedicated to King Albert I, due to his death.

In Genre you will find the death of Pim Fortuin and the death of Johan Cruyf, but simply no death!

So I was only able to fill in the special number and king!
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Genre has indeed become a bizarre collection of subjects, I don't think that was the case initially. Perhaps unintentionally due to the movement of items to this section, @Collecteur?

lordernie I don't think the “genres” you want to add are included here, that list should be much more compact. You can add additional “themes” to “Subject of the section”, I think they are more appropriate there.
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Well, try some things without saving them definitively, of course.
I select 'Royal femilies' under Genre.
And where do I enter the Type of part or Subject of the Part field in Collectioneur
You could easily place 'Death of King Albert' there.
They don't appear
Not with Change option.
Nor with the Add new item option.
Or can @DeBijzaak provide 'clarification'?

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February 24, 2024 23:16
buizer You must of course first add a (new) Part (similar to Story for Comics and Books) before you can mention a Topic. That link is at the very bottom (gray bar Parts).
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stripspeldjes lordernie DeBijzaak Collectioneur
OK found.
But a bit sad.
For all other fields, explanatory explanations are provided in the box next to the field to be filled in.
Nothing for parts, nada explanation or explanation.
And wouldn't it be better to speak of an 'article'?
It's a newspaper article, right?
Who is talking about a newspaper section or magazine section?

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The Genre field is not intended as a theme or something similar
Genre is intended to indicate what the Magazine or Newspaper can be classified into.

Since the Genre field was filled with all kinds of theme words, it was decided a year ago to clean up the list and close it. If a new Genre needs to be created for a new magazine/newspaper, this can be reported on the forum or via a PM.
The work on Genres is ongoing and unfortunately far from finished.

As with some other sections (Comics, Books, Other, etc.), it is possible to add detailed information by adding a new Section. Fortunately, this is being used more and more. As buizer rightly points out, the help texts still need to be written there. That will be done soon.
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lordernie - buizer - stripspeldjes - Collectioneur
As Collectioneur indicates, the genre field is intended to cover the entire magazine.
That genre list has grown completely at the seams over the years, because it was a free text field to fill in. And no administrator to keep track of it.
The collector asked me to start with that. So no sooner said than done. I've been working on cleaning up the genre list for over a year.
First combine or remove the most obvious terms.
Now I am structurally working from A upwards to identify all persons, countries and brands.
These must all be MANUALLY moved to section, so that all information that importers have added does not disappear. Currently I am at the letter D, which is quite a challenge.
So I'm still a long way from getting to the letter O, where the death items of various people are located.

In this way I have now reduced the genre list from more than 5800 terms to just under 2300.

I have now changed the object #10202331 as it should be with genres:
News and current affairs (because Soire Illustre is a news and current affairs magazine)
Death or Burial Rites (because that is the theme of the entire song)
Royal families (also because that is the theme of the entire song)

The details such as personal names, etc. can be placed under section. They don't belong in the genre list.

And part has been chosen correctly. After all, a magazine or newspaper consists of more things than just articles. You can see this for yourself from the list you can choose from there.
Images, cover, appendices, sections, cartoons or comics, serials, poems, news items, etc.
Not all of them are in the form of an article.

Yes, (additional) explanations still need to be provided in many places. And there must be a handbook for Magazines and Newspapers. They are still coming. Clean up first.

It seems that in addition to LastDodo, I also have a job and have to arrange a lot of things privately. I can live on the latter two, but not on the first.
If things aren't going fast enough, extra hands are very welcome. I have whole lists of things that need to be improved. I try to keep track of this as best as possible, so that I don't have to look at things twice.

I hope this makes things a bit clearer. But also that this did not happen in a few days.
It's really a lot of work.

Greetings, Peter
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