18of 18
  • 14 messages
  • November 28, 2023 18:46
1K
added
November 28, 2023 18:46
Dear collectors,
Does anyone know if the illustrator Willy is the same as Will-Berg?
Both cards from Willy and Will-Berg have the same publisher Vita Nova Schiedam.
Kind regards,
Collecting heart.
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • Catalogue administrator
  • 914 messages
  • November 28, 2023 20:00
5K
added
1K
prices
25K
reviews
500
posts
November 28, 2023 20:00
Verzamelhart
Look in the Books section under Illustrators.
--> Berg, WE van den (Berg, Will).
--> Google 'illustrator Will Berg'
Willy Everhardus van den Berg.
And also a painter, I thought.
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • Catalogue administrator
  • 1,050 messages
  • November 28, 2023 21:31
2.5K
added
25K
prices
100
info pages
25K
reviews
1K
posts
November 28, 2023 21:31
Verzamelhart
If you enter the postcard(s) from Willy in the catalogue, we can see whether that Willy is indeed Will Berg (WE van den Berg).
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 14 messages
  • November 28, 2023 21:44
1K
added
November 28, 2023 21:44
Hello Vertigo,
I have entered Willy's cards under Berg, Will in the catalogue.
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • Catalogue administrator
  • 1,050 messages
  • November 28, 2023 22:05
2.5K
added
25K
prices
100
info pages
25K
reviews
1K
posts
November 28, 2023 22:05
Verzamelhart
I am not convinced that 'Willy' is indeed the artist/illustrator WE van den Berg.
WE van den Berg usually signs 'Berg' or 'Will Berg'. Why would he suddenly sign 'Willy' now? The loose handwriting of 'Willy' differs from the handwriting of the other signings, which are very tightly stylized.

[edit}
From the style of the drawings I cannot tell that they are by Will Berg.

It would be a bit more convenient if you added the relevant numbers of the items from now on. Then we don't have to search like that.
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 14 messages
  • November 28, 2023 22:26
1K
added
November 28, 2023 22:26
vertigo,
I will put the illustrator back on Willy because I don't know anything else.

Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • Catalogue administrator
  • 2,192 messages
  • November 28, 2023 23:10
100
added
250
prices
100
info pages
50K
reviews
2.5K
posts
November 28, 2023 23:10
Then we don't have to search like that.
And which items are involved?
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 14 messages
  • November 28, 2023 23:17
1K
added
November 28, 2023 23:17
stripspeldjes Comic book pins,
To the following cards:
#7381733
#7381741
#7381743
#7381747
#7381767
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • Catalogue administrator
  • 914 messages
  • November 29, 2023 00:04
5K
added
1K
prices
25K
reviews
500
posts
November 29, 2023 00:04
vertigo stripspeldjes Verzamelhart
Google it
---> Willy Everardus van den Berg
Click open a few results. Start with the first.
And watch/read.
He was a painter, draftsman/illustrator and author.
And he learned the trade from Jan Lutz.
Not a stranger in the Netherlands, I thought.
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • Catalogue administrator
  • 2,192 messages
  • November 29, 2023 01:06
100
added
250
prices
100
info pages
50K
reviews
2.5K
posts
November 29, 2023 01:06
Definitely not Will Berg. A talented artist indeed.

Verzamelhart
May I ask why you cut off the serrated edges?
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • Catalogue administrator
  • 1,050 messages
  • November 29, 2023 09:27
2.5K
added
25K
prices
100
info pages
25K
reviews
1K
posts
November 29, 2023 09:27
lavas freecardwim DisneyMeentwijckGreenhorn EricW hansvanderdoes john-van-veen martin16877

Can any of you change the name of the Designer Berg, Will to Berg, WE van den (Will Berg)?
Then the existing background page can also be used.

The name Berg in Subject can be removed.

Thank you in advance.
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • Catalogue administrator
  • 1,050 messages
  • December 16, 2023 15:28
2.5K
added
25K
prices
100
info pages
25K
reviews
1K
posts
December 16, 2023 15:28
Verzamelhart
There turned out to be another Willy. That's why I renamed the designer of your Willy cards to Willy [2]. They can be found under that name.
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 14 messages
  • December 16, 2023 17:05
1K
added
December 16, 2023 17:05
Dus Willy (2) is niet Will Berg (Berg, Willy Everardus van der)?
  • Catalogue administrator
  • 1,050 messages
  • December 16, 2023 17:48
2.5K
added
25K
prices
100
info pages
25K
reviews
1K
posts
December 16, 2023 17:48
Verzamelhart
Indeed. Maybe one day we will find out who Willy [2] is.
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 14 messages
  • December 16, 2023 18:16
1K
added
December 16, 2023 18:16
How can this be deduced that both Willys are not the same person?
Both have the same publisher/printing company (Vita Nova Schiedam) and I think their drawing style is similar.
Sorry, this continues to fascinate me.


Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • Catalogue administrator
  • 1,050 messages
  • December 16, 2023 22:39
2.5K
added
25K
prices
100
info pages
25K
reviews
1K
posts
December 16, 2023 22:39
Verzamelhart
Then you should read the above messages carefully again. Stripspeldjes and myself draw the conclusion that Will Berg and Willy [2] are NOT the same.
The fact that both people have the same publishing company is curious, but not a very strong argument. After all, the name Willy was common at the time.

[edit]
And beyond that, you have no real proof that they are the same. Therefore, I am of the opinion that your attribution cannot be accepted.


Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • 4 messages
  • December 29, 2023 21:52
5K
added
December 29, 2023 21:52
Good evening,
I'll respond to the question Connie asked.
I also have a comment or possible addition to that.
I have entered some cards signed WB and Will
The spelling of the letters corresponds exactly to Will Berg's signature. Therefore, it is assumed that it is the same illustrator and placed as Willy vd Berg.
kind regards, Lexxel
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
  • Catalogue administrator
  • 1,050 messages
  • January 01, 2024 10:37
2.5K
added
25K
prices
100
info pages
25K
reviews
1K
posts
January 01, 2024 10:37
Lexxel
Because it concerns block letters, I don't think the 'style of writing' argument is very strong. The fact that it concerns someone with the same initials suggests that Will Berg is the illustrator. It is also noticeable that this card was published by Spanjersberg, while many Will Berg cards were published by Vita Nova. Perhaps the illustrator had contractual reasons for not signing with his full name.
Message has been translated from Dutch
Show original message
18of 18