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Something still goes wrong with the translation into French, at the title. See #9495955 . The French version then.
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Something still goes wrong with the translation into French, at the title. See #9495955 . The French version then.

Maybe it was because of the apostrophe, but now it's okay.
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That is indeed due to the apostrophe, and it does indeed fix itself if you save the title again, but that does not solve the structural problem (with the automatic translation).
Incidentally, it does not only apply to French, but an apostrophe is used more often.
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And from French, #9518733 #9518729 and a few others. Weird because #9518725 was entered at almost the same time, Collectioneur
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December 18, 2022 15:37
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I see.
I have adjusted the NL title by first removing 's and then filling in 's again (with a space after the '). Now it's fine.
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Collectioneur In my opinion this is a fairly structural problem. When I enter new items with an apostrophe in it, it (almost?) always goes wrong. When I think about it, I adjust it manually. If the translation comes while I'm still editing, it's easy to see. Often they only come when I have already saved the item and then I only see the result in Dutch.
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In which language version do you enter the items?
Do you also use a space after the ' ?
Do those strange characters appear in the field you are entering or do they appear in the (automatically) translated fields?
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Simply in the NL version: go to the stamp section, click on 'Add item' and type 'De swallow' + [Tab] in the NL box for the title. Then the translations are placed in the other boxes
Normally you can see what the problem is that way.
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OK, that's clearly a problem with the machine translation.
But I still don't understand the error with the apostrophe in the NL field or was that an automatic translation from another language version?
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In my view it's a general problem: LD #8120291


In this case, as you can see,  it's a French text translated in Dutch. It occurs in any field. 
N.B. The automatic translation of this message is also not accurate.

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Any translation with single or double quat.
As soon as someone changes and saves something in that item, this is (almost always) automatically corrected.

And also with the & sign.
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Collectioneur I enter (usually) in Dutch. What I meant to say is that I cannot easily check the automatic translation after input, because only the Dutch title is displayed. So to be sure I have to choose change again after the first entry to be able to check it.
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OK, that's clearly a problem with the machine translation.
It's not so much a problem with the translation as with the HTML encoding of special characters.
A programmer really needs to look into that.

because only the Dutch title is displayed.
If you go from the Dutch language field with the tab key to the following language fields, they will be filled in automatically. However, if you click into another field to continue, the translations will not be filled in until you save.

By the way, you can sometimes get very different translations with both methods. Unfortunately, the system is not self-learning (which would be highly desirable in the context of this collective catalogue.)

Even a difference of a few letters can make a huge difference in the accuracy of the translation:
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Thanks for all the additional info. We're going to get started with this.
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Rene Is my feeling correct that NL is translated to EN, and then EN to FR/DE? I don't have an example right now, but I seem to remember strange things because of this.
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If you go from the Dutch language field with the tab key to the following language fields, they will be filled in automatically. However, if you click into another field to continue, the translations will not be filled in until you save.
Thanks for this tip! I've been using it for a few days now and it makes checking other languages a lot easier.
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Ooh, I know this one. Enter the Dutch name Helv and click with your mouse in the field next to it. So not in the fields of the other languages. Other languages will then appear automatically. Nothing with tab. Only the problem with the apostrophe still remains ?.
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Charles1971 I still see the problem with the apostrophe.
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I still see the problem with the apostrophe.

Only in old cases or also in new translations?
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In the new translations Collectioneur German to Dutch #9530493 (see history)
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Probably because of moving the mouse instead of using the tab. But I see that Salentin has already fixed this itself.
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This was entered in Dutch with the Collectioneur tab. See entry history #9530519
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Collectioneur I also have the problem with Dutch input and use of tab.
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Just wanted to improve this one #9544251 but what has been entered is correct. Only the title is wrong?. Collectioneur
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Title is entered in the French version, the automatic translation wants to make it in NL Auto's. So there is something wrong with the apostrophe.
I'll leave it for a while so the programmer can look at it.
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