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Maybe in Raoul's black hole???.
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It is true that 3 stamps together, from a se-tenant  of 4, is a non-existent item for LD. This is by no means allowed. Therefore it cannot be merged. You don't have to look for those 'owners', 'seekers' or 'suppliers' anywhere anymore. Pure vertical ranking in the poubelle.
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Beautiful, clear language.
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I would have suggested to change the name of the issue to "1991 Indigenous dragonflies", with "1991 Heimische Libben" in German. You cannot find any of these stamps at the moment if you search for that text (which is literally on the stamp).

Of course, countless other translations are needed, but that does not have to be a reason to not just start somewhere.
It would be useful if regular users (with some experience) could do that too, to relieve the administrators.
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January 14, 2022 09:13
 Is it true that 3 stamps together, from a se-tenant  of 4, is a non-existent item for LD. That is by no means allowed. Therefore it cannot be merged. You don't have to look for those 'owners', 'seekers' or 'suppliers' anywhere anymore. Pure classification vertical in the poubelle.

This is correct and that is why Arco introduced a new item for this "DELETE" years ago.



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Apparently extremely popular item...:-)
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January 14, 2022 11:14
Collectioneur how to report "DELETE"? As Morits indicates, there are now many objects with DELETE in the title.
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Helv 
Report duplicates in the usual way. The super admin decides whether an item is merged with the original item or with the item DELETE.
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Indeed Collectioneur , always works. In the title : 'DOUBLURE van' and after that you put eg ': not allowed'. The super admin regularly searches for 'DOUBLURE' and processes those items.
It may not be a duplication, but with that search term in the title you pass it.
Note:
- this does not apply to items that are listed in the wrong section. There is a different working procedure for this;
- also does not apply to items that are in doubt. You have to be sure that it is an unauthorized item according to the agreements made (which can be found in the manual);
- also does not apply to unclear items (super blurry photo or so-called 'skewed sink').
In the latter case, contacting the person who added the item is the first step. (Re)education. A little good information and/or guidance works wonders (for everyone). Anyone can take that first step, you don't have to be an administrator.
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January 14, 2022 16:53

LD is the largest catalog after all, and you should leave that dragonfly combination and mention the Michel number.
I suspect that everyone will be shocked if you see the same stamps 40 times where more than 15 images are not completely correct , it looks messy.
but if it were correct in image, the reaction would be very different.
Other sites have these stamps in their catalog as well.
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What other sites do is unimportant to LastDodo.LastDodo has its own handbook, which we stick to.
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Frageria How can an existing combination be ignored by a manual, then you are not a complete catalog after all.
and we still stick to other catalogues, we take over all catalog numbers, such as michel,yvert ect.
because of the handbook, a lot is missing in this catalog, such as combinations of sheets and various se-tenants.
then you are not the catalog that is the greatest, but you follow it.

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If we don't have a guideline, something like a handbook. Everyone just enters something that is important to that person.Se-tenant nm.24 of the same series and on that stamp there is a bluer background, which no one sees, only the importer himself, every letter is an fdc, see date and so on. How long does it take for a catalog to be so full that no one here can see through anymore?. My opinion is, we adhere to rules that we follow, so that everything remains clear and if someone has another proposal, to change a rule, we are also open to that (Something like a democracy, lol). More is less.
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Frageria yes rules, but now suddenly these rules show that not everyone can find everything here.
like this:

and this one:

but yes:

and this one:

these last images do not look good, but are allowed.
and even if they are the same envelopes, only the Location is different. are also allowed.
How many places are there in Belgium, and do we get this image in the catalog from each place.
Then I have doubts about the Handbook. a strange turn of events.
Remove 20 se-tenant that are different, and leave 1000 envelopes that are equal.
collectors collect stamps and place names, however the stamps are shortened with these.
yes Manual
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Proposal to change something still stands. #732891 and #550689 I can find (although the last one is with a dubious scan) As far as the fdc is concerned, the discussion was not over and nothing has been decided yet, as far as I can see. If you don't like something, you can always submit a new proposal.
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Maybe re-source and really limit the section to 'Stamps'?

A number of side effects and exceptions are allowed to make it easy for the collector (buyer, seeker, seller). But the side effects should be limited. otherwise it will become a cluttered mess in which the core of the matter, postage stamps, disappears.
Stamps are individual items.
Provided proper agreements and restrictions are possible, there is room in the Stamps section for side effects. But not in detail, not specialized.
If the limitation doesn't meet the requirements, then the side effects have to be removed.

FDCs, in all its forms, you can fill a column with millions of items. If you really want to get started as a specialized FDC collector, apply for a section and register as a responsible administrator. Then sponsor a development team to make the bridge (as I described earlier) possible.

Se-tenant, in all its forms and capacities...that fills a column with hundreds of thousands of items.
It's already a godsend with all those combinations from the books. Ok, people love that in the Netherlands, and DAVO is only too happy to provide all those additional sheets so that you can tear and tuck away a lot of combination options from those booklets. But the virus is spreading to other countries/areas.
Why in God's name you have to tear (MNH) booklets into pieces and then put those pieces away behind a clamp strip ... I've never understood it.
Suppose your 'Combinations from comics' for (comics category). Vertically torn, horizontally torn, diagonally torn, the odd pages, the even pages, the cover with page 1, the inner pages, ..., 

A booklet is published as a booklet. Nice to have, and that's it. The booklet consists of stamps (items) with which you can frank letters to send. And that's where it should stop imho.
Combinations, how do you get there.
Floors, full runners, skewed runners, idlers, ...

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Raoul62  Commerce is the culprit.
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I put it somewhat black and white, because there is a tendency to let the side issue dominate.
I understand that as a seller you want to benefit from the success of a section such as Postage Stamps. There are many passionate and driven users among them. Who work daily in the stamp section. Potential buyers. Then everyone in that section really wants to offer everything that has anything to do with stamps.
Remember: excess is harmful.
Like the story of the 'official' FDCs in the Netherlands. Swelling to a circulation well above 500,000 ... then in free fall to a circulation below 5,000.
A short-lived success story (rather a long agony or a decay story).
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aartinge Anyone can have their say and make suggestions, but in the end it's the super admin and LD themselves who decide which direction to take. If everyone has a different opinion and keeps repeating the same thing over and over, we will get nowhere. Once the decision has been made, you follow the rules. You are also confusing 2 problems : 1) Which items 2) Which images
What I remembered from the rules :
- a se-tenant is included 1 time as 1 item (and not 2,3,4 ,5 stamps in combination left/right/top/bottom ... because there are hundreds)
- "preferably" a clear photo, but if it is a valid item why would you remove it (if another collector has a better photo then he can change it, but then the info is already in the catalog)
- FDC is still being considered, so may change slightly, but it comes down to the first day of the stamp, all the different covers (commercially issued, no home industry), all official cancels (and for information in Belgium there used to be a maximum of five)
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user-1713548 I'm not mixing up 2 things, I'm pointing out 2 differences 
no sprawl concerns se-tenants, but sprawl concerns fdc.
if a handbook has rules, and you don't want sprawl, then you take care also that there is no proliferation at the fdc.
you first have everyone place se-tenants and combinations  and FDC, and then you start thinking about making a handbook with rules or adjusting the handbook.
Also it's not about removing the item, it's about the bad image.
and no one is going to replace another's image., because most of them hang on the item with no image. it will be a few who do that, and then maybe.
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To the Stamp Administrators.
Are such items included in the Stamp Catalogue.
#8975103
Are there several of this Series that can be entered.
Or also these #8975283
Or also this #8833147 this one is even being reviewed.
Greetings John.
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Lyonesse Has been discussed a few times on the forum in the past few days: no separate item (1 seal = 1 item), either for the trash can, or an administrator can now copy the image as 2nd image (if user doesn't download it himself if it is not your own image because then you will have problems with the watermark)
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It's just a stamp with a sheet border on it. If someone changes it in due course for a stamp without a sheet border, that is preferred.
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So to your words, these stamps do not belong in the Stamp Catalogue?
Yes, they are stamps with sheet margins, see the stamp handbook.
Now another question, why does an administrator have to do something change an item like that, these items are not allowed anyway.
Why aren't they immediately removed when they are entered, no they are even reviewed.
Other items are also removed after ten years, although collectors and shops are attached , see other questions in this Topic.
Greetings John.
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So you're really writing here that the stamps can just stay there even though they're not allowed according to the manual.
And other items are simply removed because they aren't allowed according to the manual either.
By the way I also have a few hundred such items in my collection, may I include those as well.
Greetings John.
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