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In this topic, requests for a new field in this section can be reported.
Clearly explain the purpose and use of such a new field.
Does not mean that this will be automatically honored.
We are unable to provide a schedule for any adjustment.

At the moment (already) the following request(s) have been submitted:
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Inker. These are especially common in comics.
An inker is not the same as a draftsman and does not belong there.
Translator. Purely because these also deserve recognition.
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Inker and Translator I'll add.
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I was still thinking about Theme.
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Hello, I'm new to Lastdodo but I'm also for the colorist. The post is from September, would the catalog be adjusted?
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The following fields have been added to Comics:
- Barcode / EAN
- Translator
- Inkter
- Colorist
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When filling in the Draftsman and Scenarist fields you get a dropdown with suggestions (from the Authors table), but that does not happen with Translator, Inkter and Colorist. Does that mean that completely new name tables are created for that field?
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When filling in the Draftsman and Scenarist fields, you get a dropdown with suggestions (from the Authors table), but that does not happen with Translator, Inkter and Colorist. Does that mean that completely new name tables are created for those fields?

The overlap between draftsmen and translators etc. is small, isn't it? The consequence is different that you also get the translators and colorists in the authors list Boekenmagazijn 
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The overlap between Artists and Inkers/Colorers is very large.
Or is it the intention that those names are only mentioned if those persons are NOT the same?

Test: https://www.lastdodo.nl/nl/catalog/1888-strips/5415303-inkter
At Books there are more writers who also translate. In that section I personally sometimes find it difficult that Author and Illustrator are two different tables.

Years ago there was talk of a catalog-wide people index. I have some reservations about that, but it becomes more and more difficult to synchronize something like this as you keep adding extra tables with names to the database.
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The overlap between Draftsmen and Inkers/Colorers is very large.
Or is it the intention that those names are only mentioned if those persons are NOT the same?

Well, I actually assumed that we only fill in those fields if it is actually someone other than the draftsman. Or wouldn't you? You often get the same names in these fields anyway Boekenmagazijn 

At Books there are more writers who also translate.

But that happens very rarely, doesn't it?

 In that section I personally sometimes find it difficult that Author and Illustrator are two different tables.

I do have the idea that in comics the overlap between artist and screenwriter (ie that the same person draws and writes the screenplay) is much greater than the overlap in books between author and screenwriter. That is why it was once decided to make it 1 list for comics and not for books.

Years ago there was talk of a catalog-wide people index.

That is still the goal, but not easy to achieve, so unfortunately it will take some time before we get there.
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Now that the fields are there, it will be an incentive for many people to fill them in as much as possible... even if one person fulfills all functions.

I only signal what I stands out. I would do it differently, but if this choice was made consciously, we have to do it with this.
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Now that the fields are there, it will be an incentive for many people to fill them in as much as possible... even if one person fulfills all functions.

That is true, but we could indicate in the explanation that it must be a different person than the draftsman.

 I would do it differently, but if this choice is made consciously, we have to do it with this.

How would you do it then Boekenmagazijn ?
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Addition: if I enter the Artist and Colorist, but leave the Inker field blank, does that automatically mean that the Draftsman is also the Inker? Or does it mean it is unknown? For a Draftsman who is his own Screenwriter, I also fill in both fields...

Because it concerns personal data per story, I would expect that all names come from the same list.
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Fill in what you know. If it is known that the Draftsman is also the Inker, then you also enter this in Inkter.
If a field is empty, then it is not known at that moment.
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Since it concerns personal data per story, I would expect that all names come from the same list.

Did you mean how you would do it differently yourself Boekenmagazijn ?
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With a Draftsman who is his own Screenwriter I also fill in both fields...

There is something in it Boekenmagazijn 

I think we should indeed arrange that inks, colorists and translators are also in the same list as draftsmen and scriptwriters. So in any case already a central register of persons within comics :-)
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At Books there are more writers who also translate.

I hadn't thought of it before but perhaps you don't mean writers who translate their own work into other languages, but writers who translate work by foreign authors into their own language? That does indeed happen.
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Did you mean how you would do it differently yourself
Yes, I would indeed put everything in one name list myself. After all, with some good will you can also consider inkers, colorists and translators as "Authors" of a work.

But I would like to hear what other people think about this. Perhaps there are still practical objections to be made.
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writers who translate work by foreign authors into their own language?
That's what I meant. Like Annie M.G. Schmidt and Han Hoekstra who translated the Golden Booklets, just to to call.

Edit: I just came up with an advantage of the separate lists of names. In the above series (and others) Schmidt and Hoekstra can from now on be listed as Translators instead of Authors. Under their Author name you will only see the books they have written themselves and under their Translator name only the books they have translated.
At the moment they are all mixed up under their Author name. Of course, the same also happens if you combine all names into one list. In that case you should build in an extra filter option on "role" or "function" of the person concerned.
The same restriction now applies to comics. You see all the books by that person under a name, but you do not see which one he was an artist and which one was a screenwriter. Example: Mort Walker. You can't see which books he just wrote and didn't draw unless you happen to know those series.
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June 28, 2022 15:15
 Yes, I would indeed put everything in one name list myself. After all, with some good will, you can also consider inkers, colorists and translators as "Author" of a work.

We just adjusted it. In Comics, Inkers, Colorists and Translators are now also included in the Authors table. Just like Screenwriter and Draftsman.

At Books we have also adjusted that for Translator, it is now in the same table as the authors.
Thanks for the comment.
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 In that case you should build in an extra filter option on the "role" or "function" of the person concerned.

Such an "exclusion filter" has already been requested by several people/categories. Is on the wish list.
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The edit of my previous post is therefore already partly obsolete.
Hopefully no one will come up with a convincing argument to reverse everything ;-)
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Looks good.
 - Barcode / EAN does it have to be entered in a special way or can it just be written together?
Now let's get to the hard work. Not only filling it in, but also checking whether the Inker has been entered at the draftsman and can therefore be removed and whether the colorist has been entered at Special Details.
Sigh just a small job. :-)
Will work on it.
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 Looks good.
 - Barcode / EAN does it have to be entered in a special way or can it just be written together?

Thanks for the compliment.
Barcode / EAN is a contiguous row of (usually) numbers.

 Sigh just a small job. :-)
Will continue working.

The fields are now available for all new entries, so the mountain will only get smaller in the end.
A lot of hands make the work easier here too. It really doesn't need to be dealt with urgently.
But if everyone who sees this on an item would make the changes, we'll make good progress.
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I'm just taking it easy. If I need to make improvements somewhere, I can take this with me.
I've been going through and adjusting my comics lately and now have a pile of it separately so can start nicely with that to put in the now fields too fill.
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