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Hello,

I don't know about other themes but with the theme: Animals: Cats/Cats you come across the same card at times against, only from a different publisher, so the back is slightly different. Or just the same one but reissued a year later, so that there is a different number on the card. Or one card has a jagged edge and the other does not. And so on  
Yet it is always the same cat photo that is on it. Is it not possible to put all these cards together in one way or the other under the same cat photo, but then with space to put the different publishers, numbers, possibly card edges, ...  with each same card cat photo with photo examples. That way you get the photo 1 time in a row and when you click it open, you get all the options that are still scattered here and there in the theme.
Doesn't this seem to make things more clear to me?

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Can you give some examples  of the photo you mean? That makes it easier for us to think along about a solution.
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It's just an idea, but maybe with the String field? That field seems underused to me. 1,285 Cat cards and more than 1,000 items have 'Not filled in' for that field.



At #1012179 en You could place #1012195 at Series 'Animal protection'.
I would also limit the title to what is really on the card 'Can I sleep with you ?'.
And those weird codes from the title:
- either to Details with mention (explanation) where they refer to (catalog?);
- or to the personal notes if they mean something personal ( personal codification).

In addition, I would also use the 'Number (on) the card' field. One clearly says 'P20-98', the other clearly says 'wk 40-98'.

But that's just my idea about this.
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I don't know about other themes, but with the theme: Animals: Cats/Cats you sometimes come across the same card again, only from a different publisher so the rear is slightly different. Or just the same one but reissued a year later, so that there is a different number on the card. Or one card has a jagged edge and the other does not. And so on   

LastDodo includes any item that is different from another item. In this case there is apparently a difference in publisher, version and/or year. It doesn't matter that the same photo may be used for this. It's about the Postcard and not about the photo.

You could indeed do something with Series, but that's something the administrators have to think about.

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Raoul62
Boomerang cards always have a catalog number in the title. It is not in accordance with the general agreements in the Basic Manual, but a special exception has been made. It is not wise to change this without consulting the relevant specialist (freecardwim).
The explanation you are looking for is (partly) on the background page of Boomerang Netherlands (but you just have to know that).

For identical photos, sorting via the Designer field may also be possible, but this requires a little more insight into the specific items that Gillian means.
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Difference is difference, clear differences: before/after internet, no/with barcode, collecting from specific publisher.
Small differences... well... different number? Lost old file or just couldn't find it, so just a new number (my own experience on the case ;) ) (not my choice)
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Hi,

I raise this theme because if, for example, you are interested in buying a certain card and you do not care what number the card has or who the designer is, for example, then you should immediately click on all those different cards if one suddenly appears. come up for sale. My wish list is getting very long...

I'm not saying the cards shouldn't be there either. I haven't referred to them as Doubleur just because I understand that on some level this is a different card, but still I wonder if the only difference is the number, who is going to put that card in their collection several times?
I myself won't buy a card anytime soon just because the back looks slightly different because I'm all about the photo plate at the front. But I can still understand that there are people who still find this a substantial enough difference to own the same front card several times.

Anyway, here are a few examples:

- These three cards only differ in number:
1012187 / 1012145 / 1012217
as well as this example:
4743609 / 5028315
For example, can you not merge the cards here and indicate that she is known to date with these numbers instead of entering them one by one?

- Example of the same front but different publishers at the back of the card:
7643633 / 4978161 / 3710461
Isn't it possible to put all those backs together with one front print and then have the option at the publisher to indicate all three different publishers?

I hope it is so clear what I mean.

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Raoul62  Do I understand correctly that you are actually proposing to make the title of all those same-looking cards the same everywhere so that then they are neatly arranged one after the other in the list and not scattered here and there? To indicate the underlying differences between the cards by filling in the fields?

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Gilliankat 
Collecteur has already indicated that every card that differs will be included, so please don't keep asking whether it can be combined after all. That does not happen.
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Morits  I wasn't asking to do it again. They were asked what I meant by others so that they could think about solutions and that is why I put those examples on it.
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Gilliankat 
I understand what you mean,  such a setup is common in paper catalogues, but within the structure of this catalog it is technically not possible.

There are also collectors in eg Comics who don't care what pressure they have from a particular album. So-called "Hoofdreeks" have been compiled for this purpose, in which only 1 edition of each album is included. All other editions and variants (even if there are tens) are not linked to those items. So you can indicate that you are looking for such a comic book, but that only applies to that one item. If you want to be notified about offers from all (almost identical) editions, you have to indicate this manually for all those albums.
There are other sites that do organize comics by title, with all variants on the same page, but as mentioned it doesn't work like that here. Not for postcards either.
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which you are actually proposing to just make all those same looking cards the same title everywhere
Something like that, yes, but that is not in line with the guidelines drawn up by the administrator(s) of that section.
I just wanted to think along with you, towards a possible solution.

At Stamps works it is and must not be added in the title that refers to a coding. With postcards, yes. Sorting by title therefore makes less sense.
Now I suddenly think of telephone cards where the specific coding (check digit on the back, unscannable, but determines the type of card variant) might be very useful to include in the title. places ... Or the Michel catalog code for stamps in the title to be able to immediately distinguish the many variants in an overview, ...
No, preferably not (although it could prevent a lot of clicking).

Perhaps thinking in the direction of 'Series'? I think it's a shame that a field is hardly used. With 'Series' you could easily view the cards that look the same, but differ slightly (back, number on the card, publisher, ...) together separately from everything else. For example, in stamps you click on the series name (which is now called 'Issuance') and only all items from that same series are displayed. This gives you an easy overview.

Because sorting by title doesn't work in Postcards (because of that difficult code in the beginning of the title text) to keep similar looking items together there isn't much choice of alternatives.
Or maybe it could be in the title, for the 90% cards of the section that are not boomerang?

Just thinking further, I would assume that 'Boomerang' has its own catalog numbering system. And that this could actually use a specific (separate) field. Because now 10% cards hold the other 90% hostage ... 

In addition, I see that the thinking makes the section less accessible for the less specialized collector of beautiful cards, but perfect for the more advanced postcard collector. Choosing is always losing.
Sometimes you should stop and think about the thought 'What if...': a 9 to 10 year old youngster receives a lot of picture cards from Grandma and/or Grandpa. Yay! On LD I can 'map' it. Not so ... then just put it in a pile somewhere on the cupboard and first study quite a few years.

But, I'm not a specialist, and just come up with some ideas.
It's the administrators who have the last, and definitive, word.


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Raoul62 

I really only use the "Series" for postcards that clearly indicate that they belong to a certain series. I thought that was the purpose of that field. With a number of cat cards there is a nice series name at the back that you can use and if you also enter the number, then you can suddenly see how many there are of that series.

But okay. It was just a question. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. I'll see that I can make good use of my own real collection and then make the search list a little longer.

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