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December 18, 2013 10:24

I recently bought a nice tin lithographed box in the shape of a stable, but one side is loose. The gabled roof, which is also the lid with a hinge in the middle, must be reattached on one side, where there are still remnants of soldering or something to be seen. I don't know much about it. Some of the sides are also slightly collapsed and when I press them into place they just spring back in.

I would like advice on how to fix that. Or is it better to give it to a restorer, but then I would have liked someone to recommend you.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Tara2

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December 18, 2013 15:34

A restorer is always recommended. But it is of course also highly dependent on the ultimate value after restoration. If the restoration costs more than the final value, one must ask whether it is worth it.

I would certainly contact a renowned museum, such as the Rijks museum. I have had good experiences with various restorers with whom I came into contact through the museum.

First find out in which category this box falls and which museum might have it. Other museums can also help you find the right restorer

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  • December 18, 2013 17:47
December 18, 2013 17:47

Thank you for your advice.

I live in Belgium and have contacted two toy museums (Brussels and Mechelen), but no response so far. But I will have to be patient for a while.

Of course I want a restorer with a good reference. But I have no idea what their prices are.

Where can I find out the value of my box? I have no results via google.

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December 18, 2013 18:28

Put the box in the catalog, then I can issue a valuation

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  • December 18, 2013 19:43
December 18, 2013 19:43

Just done, hope correct. Will add another one. It is approximately 28cm wide.

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December 18, 2013 20:23

Can you also discover a brand? Also place a photo of the brand or the bottom.

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  • December 19, 2013 09:52
December 19, 2013 09:52

No, I don't see a brand; I once saw one and it was said in German and period 1920-1930, but no price stated, was sold

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December 19, 2013 10:46

Sounds like German to me. All things considered, I think the can is worth around 50 - 75 €. Various collectors may be interested in this. For example, this falls within the collective domain of (cake) Tins, Devotionalia and Christmas.

I would avoid restoration. The value is too small for that.

Offering for auction is certainly an option. But it is almost impossible whether this will be accepted given the value and condition. Now is the time for it, given the Christmas party. Otherwise, send an email to the auctioneer Job Kwakman. By the way, he is on vacation until next week, I understand.

If you get the green light, please add a German translation. In this way you have a greater chance that German bidders will also bid.

If you do not speak the German language, I can make a translation if you wish.

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  • December 19, 2013 13:10
December 19, 2013 13:10

Thanks for advice, but I don't mean to sell. I would like the box in order for myself.

Can I delete the photos or this topic?

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December 19, 2013 13:19

Why do you want to delete the photos and subject?

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  • December 19, 2013 14:28
December 19, 2013 14:28

Since it is not the intention to sell or display the box, I just wanted advice on how to restore it, either myself or from a restorer.

In any case, thank you very much for your help.

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December 19, 2013 14:34

@ Tara2


Of course you can put your collection on private, but if you don't want to display the box, why did you join Catawiki?

By correctly sharing your collection with the Catawiki community, you also get a lot in return, such as free valuations, tips and advice ;-)

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December 19, 2013 14:41

Unfortunately, as so often, again someone who only wants to benefit from it and does not want to offer anything in return ...

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That is why it is good to always have the relevant item entered for questions, as happened here. Then there is always something in return, because of course we do not take anything away.

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  • December 19, 2013 15:58
December 19, 2013 15:58

Indeed, I thought Catawiki was a website like there are where you can ask for information, whatever this may be, but from a private person. Of course I should have read the terms of use first. Did that now, too late.

As I stated, I just wanted help and advice and responded in good faith to the request to post a photo. I regret the reaction of the two other administrators and the comment about entering an item gives me the impression that the question for posting the photo and other information is played in a certain way in order to get more information on the site. I would find that very unfortunate and hopefully I am wrong about this.

My collection is on the internet. With all the information I have available, I make it available to anyone who can ask me questions without further obligations. I started this out of thanks for the much information, made available without obligees, that I have found on sites of friendly and pleasant people.

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@Tara,

I regret the reaction of the two other administrators and entering the comment about item gives me the impression that the question for posting the photo and other info is played in a certain way in order to get more information on the site to get. I would find that very regrettable and hopefully I am wrong about this.

The basic idea of Catawiki is to build a site with all collectors that will of course never be finished. Questions are regularly asked by new collectors / one-time passers-by who want to know something about an item in their possession. In the early days of Catawik, this was always addressed, often with the result that the item was subsequently placed on Marktplaats or similar. was put up for sale. Many experts are so fed up with this approach that we expect something in return. If the requestor enters the item and thus improves the catalog, we will do our best to answer the question as well as possible.

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December 19, 2013 18:32

Tara2,

CataWiki is a Catalog website for and by Collectors and sellers. Precisely because it is a Catalog, you do other collectors a favor by adding your tin to the Catalog. People can then put it in their wish list and if someone wants to sell it, they can buy it.

Because you have added the can to the Catalog, can collectors now also know that such a can exists. If it is not there, many collectors do not know and that is a shame. Surely you do not browse in a paper Catalog with only the items that you have yourself. In many cases, that would cause a lot of empty spots.

[edit] RikMooren preceded me and as you already read I say the same {/ edit]

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December 19, 2013 21:22

The confusion at @ tara2 proves once again that a renewed motion graphics and animation video, which takes new Catawiki users by the hand, is not an unnecessary luxury.

Check out what's possible: Image Power .

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December 20, 2013 09:04

Finally a, in my opinion, positive response with insight for improvement. I went to the link "Image Power", but I can't watch the video in IE, nor with Google Chrome. I suppose there is something to do with my settings.

I think the two offensive comments are inappropriate, they still bother me a bit and do not have a constructive result, on the contrary.

Fortunately, there are moderators who respect their duties, I am convinced.

Maybe we need moderators who moderate moderators to better moderate "unfortunate" moderator responses.

Have a nice day .

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Dear @ Tara2

Don't blame them. Collectors are generally very emotional people; and certainly that of the Catawiki community. There are a loyal group of users who invest a great deal of time in expanding and improving the Catawiki catalog. You should also see their response in that context. Of course you can still get advice or a valuation from me. But it would be nice if you add parts of your collection to the catalog in return. This makes it a win - win situation for everyone.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask,


Have a nice weekend.

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What are you actually saying here? 'Don't blame them' and then you say exactly the same as we do. Enter something first, then ask questions.

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and responded in good faith to the request to post a photo. I regret the reaction of the two other administrators and the comment about entering an item gives me the impression that the question for posting the photo and other information is played in a certain way in order to get more information on the site.

Slightly strange remark, as if we are deviously fooling users to post items on the site. Well then you have a very bad impression of us, you come to us, ask a question and in return you have to post something on the site. What's devious about that?

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  • December 20, 2013 19:12
December 20, 2013 19:12

Dear artdecorations, when the box is restored I will post a new photo; I'll think about posting other pieces for a moment, maybe later out of appreciation (they are already available on the internet) when my confidence has recovered a bit.

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December 20, 2013 21:24

Happy Holidays

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they are already available on the internet

But not yet on CataWiki and therefore do not exist for this CataWiki Catalog. As already mentioned, this Catalog is for Collectors and Sellers (auction and / or shop). Someone who maintains his Collection through CataWiki cannot add a nonexistent item to his List of Values. Not even if he knows that such an item exists and there is an image somewhere on the internet. You are not allowed to use images from other sites and you must actually own or have an item in your hands, so that you can properly describe and photograph / scan it.

out of appreciation [..... ] When my trust is restored a bit.

CataWiki not only depends on you, but the members of CataWiki are willing to help you if you have a question. People who are members of CataWiki also appreciate CataWiki very much and contribute to the improvement, expansion and completeness of the Catalog. You register with CataWiki and we assume that you do so because you have confidence in CataWiki. You can post abuses and questions in a friendly, non-reproachful way on the forum or ask the person concerned.

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